Sure is a nice way to get an early gravity gun with little mining though, provided you have glowstone.
Equivalent Exchange has to go.
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My main issues with current incarnation of ee3 (which I do use as it's there): ender pearls should be from endermen (or end bees), blaze rods should require entering the nether (interaction with thaumcraft cinderpearl flowers) and the transmutation should have a time cost (easiest way would be to make the minium stone the heart of a placed magical contraption) as instant stuff makes it seem more op than it is.
In a game where almost everything is theoreticaly infinite, its alsmost impossible for a mod that lets you directly exchange one thing for another to be balanced. Put another way, the only way to truly balance Equivalent exchange would be to make it Unequivalent exchange, and that would kinda defeat the purpose of the mod. The best thing we can do is leave the author to it, and come back to complain about balance when the mod is actually finished.
Since last November, when minecraft released and price went up to $30 a pop, they have sold over 3 million copies. $30 x 3,000,000 = $90,000,000. Yeah.
I don't think you can say something isn't fun. (Well, you can say whatever you want but that doesn't make it so.) Fun is highly subjective. I might say it's fun to slowly die of anal cancer, and I'm pretty sure 99.9% of people would disagree with me, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. Fun is like beauty, it's in the eyes of the beholder.
You think Notch would spot me a few bones?
You know this may sound rude but it's for anybody who gets the idea of posting something like this:
If you think the mod is OP, UP, stupid, whatever DON'T USE IT.
Don't have 500000 different threads talking about why you hate the mod
Just disable it. That's why there's such a thing as FTB for disabling!
If you think the mod is OP, UP, stupid, whatever DON'T USE IT.
Don't have 500000 different threads talking about why you hate the mod
Just disable it. That's why there's such a thing as FTB for disabling!
If you think you can make infinite diamonds with EE3 then think about the railcraft rock crusher.
Grind up cobble, grind up gravel and then take the diamonds.
Use an IC2 solar setup to convert EU to MJ for use in the crusher.
No short-lasting minum stones required.
Grind up cobble, grind up gravel and then take the diamonds.
Use an IC2 solar setup to convert EU to MJ for use in the crusher.
No short-lasting minum stones required.
The mod is balanced, or at least the concept of it is.
It's all about equal trade. Give enough of ___, and get ___. It's actually a great addition to the game. Rather than getting lucky and finding something, you can just pay a lot for. it. Can't find diamonds? use a lot of gold. It also fixes ender pearls not being available in creative.
It's all about equal trade. Give enough of ___, and get ___. It's actually a great addition to the game. Rather than getting lucky and finding something, you can just pay a lot for. it. Can't find diamonds? use a lot of gold. It also fixes ender pearls not being available in creative.
erm, methinks thou mightest have meant in peaceful not creative.
then again this discussion remains focused on survival mode anyway. have you ever tried getting somewhere in adventure and a random spawn in?
Oops, you're right. I did mean peaceful, not creative. The concept of equal trade still carries over, though. Just without mob drops.
Heh, everything is available in creative
Now that I've stated the obvious, I shall state my opinion on EE3, SS, etc. They are options. It's good to have options. If you think they're OP, and don't want them on your world/server, it's VERY simple to disable them. Some people like them. Trying to take the ability to do something away from others because you don't want to do it is nanny-rule. You (not speaking to anyone in particular here) don't know what's best for everyone. Just like soon-to-be-former-mayor-Bloomberg banning fatty foods and large soft-drinks, it's just plain wrong.
TLDR: If you don't like it, don't use it, but for gods sake don't lobby to have it removed, because some people do want to use it, and they have every right to.
I don't think this true at all. The entry-level for EE3 is extremely low, (can be achieved in the first few hours of joining a server) and it's extremely powerful early-game when you need specific items that it can generate cheaply (such as obsidian from logs, blaze rods from blaze powder and diamonds from gold). Combine it with other mods like soulshards and it's just ludicrously overpowered. T5 enderman/pigman spawner? .. gg on your infinite iron/gold/diamonds.
If memory serves, I'm sure I recall mention that condensers (or rather the functionality to generate "free" resources) was something that the mod author was intending to put back into EE3. If that's true, then EE3 will be just as bad as EE2 was from a balance perspective.
That's a good point, it could be a lot more expensive and difficult to make minium stones, that would balance it out a bit, imo.
I thought the rock crusher ran on steam? Ofc you can convert EU to steam just as easily in Ultimate, so either way the point is still valid.
Totally off topic: Hmm that gave me another idea, an electric boiler making steam from EU. It could have heating elements that need replacement every so often, as they deteriorate or get calcated (gunked up with lime from hard water like your water heater at home). MJ is kinetic energy isn't it? You could have a device that makes steam from friction heat powered by MJ. The friction pads (think brake pads) could be made of asbestos or ceramic or something and be replaceable. Think a more realistic power converters mod.
To be fair, the rock crusher is pretty slow and has a low chance (less than 1%) to get a diamond from gravel.
Gravel itself is only a 10% chance when pulverizing cobblestone.
Doesn't really compare with how easy it is to get diamonds via EE3 and a soul-shard. With a T5 soul shard dropping 5 pigmen at a time, you're gonna be racking up the gold/diamonds at a ludicrous pace.
Gravel itself is only a 10% chance when pulverizing cobblestone.
Doesn't really compare with how easy it is to get diamonds via EE3 and a soul-shard. With a T5 soul shard dropping 5 pigmen at a time, you're gonna be racking up the gold/diamonds at a ludicrous pace.
I think it should have unlimited durability, but be harder to make. It should not require mob drops, either. balancing via durability isn't really a good idea. If there needs to be balancing, it should be done with adjusting value. For example, making 1 ender pearl cost 5 iron instead of 4. Changing a catalyst's cost is another factor. It does not make it any more balanced.
Title pretty much sums it up. (Crap I always forget that
Like, you can turn cobble into diamonds. Cobble Generator --> Grind to Gravel --> Minium into Clay --> Autocraft into Clay Blocks --> Minium into Iron, then Gold, then Diamonds. And Minium stones are cheap to make.
I think it should either be removed from the ultimate pack, or be nerfed in such a way that it actually works with ftb. Like, disabling EnderPearl/Clay/Obsidian --> Iron exchange. As it stands, this mod is incredibly op, invalidates a number of unique and cool features from other mods, and detracts from the entire ftb experience.
Mate, relax, sit back, drink a cup of warm milk or two; think and think long. Rate of drop of minium shards aren't that great and you can not get them unless you personally kill the mobs and minium stones do not last that long; think about it if you have to destroy one minium stone for a stack of gold then you are wasting your time and that is how it happens. Waste of precious minium stone.
I'd let you into a really good stuff though; get a sword with soul stealer IV on it; make 26 iron golems and slaughter them; collect their souls and then make a simple mob trap; infinite gold!