Energy System
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If for whatever reason you're really poor and can't afford diamonds, just put a relay right next to the quarry, put a pneumatic tube that's two long going to a goodies chest and a filter right next to the initial tube that allows dirt, cobble and gravel in (this being the first valid destination for cobble/whatever crap and getting destroyed).
Put lava next to the output end of the filter and you're set.
No worries, then only better way I can think to find early diamonds would be with turtles (seven smoothstone, one glass pane, one redstone, one chest, seven iron ingots, and then some coal to fuel it), and that isn't for everyone. The IC2 miner will get you usually a few diamonds per ever OV scanner (9x9) area you do, although it won't process anywhere near as fast as the quarry.
You also need to make a normal diamond drill for the miner, so you can use it until you get enough diamonds to make a quarry and diamond pipes, then retire it.
Yeah, RP2 tubes would likely be a bunch better idea for your first quarry if you are diamond-broke.
Now I need to go try and run my quarry on potatoes. Be back with the results.
And yeah, that does not work. Mostly as I cannot find a slot to shove a potato into the quarry. I tried to stuff it into the input slot, but it just shot cobble at me (considering the amount of mass on a meter cubed of cobblestone and the velocity of that, I'm surprised I survived).
The IC2 miner didn't like the potato, either, but I was able to power an alarm clock.
Man, you're a moron.
Hah, well, I cannot even get into MineCraft, so I just ran a low-level simulation of it in my head. I'll check later tonight, as maybe poison potatoes will work.
That'd be a GREAT usage for poison potatoes: One time use EU batteries. Yeah, I need sleep, hahah.
That would explain all of the spuds I see on Youtube whenever I go there! Yuck yuck yuck.
Well, you can run quarry on potatoes with GT. Just put them into GT centrifuge and feed half of resulting methane to boiler and use it to power steam engines connected to quarry. However it make take a quite a large potato farm to run it efficiently (idea for next build).
Hobbyist steam engines are terrible if you have access to pipe waterproofing or liquiducts. The only reason to ever use them is that you don't have one of the aforementioned items to get water into a steam engine.
Marginally. But that's canceled out for nearly every use by the startup time. Deploying a cold engine means you have a terribad engine. So unless you put a lot of coal into both, the TE steam engine comes out ahead by my testing. With 10 coal, the TE steam engine was still winning.
So let me revise my statement: if you are making a fairly big quarry run hobbyists might make sense. For most every other usecase, TE steam engines are better and perform more predictably.
Fuel efficiency, Dave. Go on your contraption-testing Superflat, hook up a Steam Engine and a Hobbyist's to their own energy cells and compare the numbers after you let each of them burn through half a stack of Coal.
I tested up to a full stack of coal with coal engines. I saw a breakeven at around... shoot I don't have my notes, but I want to say fourty coal? That's longer than most default size quarries run by 2-3 engines take to run in my experience. I guess unless you start real high.
The warmup time really hurts efficiency in actual use. For big quarries you could make a case. For anything that won't run for a pretty long time, it's a waste. For example, for a small starter workshop you are actually choosing a much less efficient engine for most workloads by choosing anything but the steam engine.
I'll be home in about half an hour and start another test, but that's quite different than the results I remember. It could be that my thinkybits are malfunctioning from too much coffee, not enough sleep, and the excavator bucket tooth to the knee I took about an hour ago.
I think everyone is forgetting something about the DW20 pack, it has EE3, as long as you have gold and iron, you're never without a diamond, because you can transmute to one with a minium stone. Yeh it's expensive but used wisely can be a boon, like getting a diamond drill to go caving with instead of pick axes.