Can't find any Rubys...

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Blanq820

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Hey, I've been trying to make a Matterfabricator, have not found the first ruby, and I would much rather not use 18 stacks of redstone to get the necessary dust for chrome.

I checked the wikis and Q&A section and found rubys only spawn in desert biomes, so I've been running now 2 miners while I spelunk underneath and still have not found the first one. I doubt they are that rare, so the only question I have left is whether or not they spawn in the Mountainous Desert biomes or just plain desert biomes.

Would appreciate a quick reply, because this is getting frustrating, lol.

P.S. Bonus points if you give me the prime mining level :p
 

SilvasRuin

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Same level as gold and redstone I think, and maybe a little higher. Ravines really help for finding them. It's not just desert biomes with Extra Biomes XL, it's hot and... /or dry biomes. i'm not sure which. But Wasteland appears to be another viable biome for them to generate under.
 

Blanq820

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Can you (or someone) give me a list of said biomes por favor?

Also, is it weird that I haven't been able to find them? The miners I've been using have now checked a 18x54 area to no avail.
 

arkangyl

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Can you (or someone) give me a list of said biomes por favor?

Also, is it weird that I haven't been able to find them? The miners I've been using have now checked a 18x54 area to no avail.
I don't have a list, yet, but I have personally confirmed that they spawn in Desert, Mountain Desert, Meadows, and Savannahs.
 

Blanq820

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k, ill start checking around the savannas and meadows as they are much closer than the nearest mountain desert to my base, and i get the feeling it spites me a bit for letting its villagers die xD

thanks, arkangyl :)
 

Zaik

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I've gotten Ruby in wastelands as well. You can find Bauxite there as well. Dunno about the Bauxite, but you should be able to find Ruby almost anywhere, it's not restricted by height(at least not noticably)

However, for whatever weird reason Ruby will not spawn in a Mystcraft world. I spent an hour shooting up a forest with a mining laser on explosive/gravity chestplate/IDSU to recharge. It won't generate.

Dense ores might force it to generate, but then you'll just see a whole lot of everything. Probably best to just stick it out another 5 or 10 months for redpower to get finished and use it's ruby instead, since they're 1000x more common and aren't so biome restricted.
 

arkangyl

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I've gotten Ruby in wastelands as well. You can find Bauxite there as well. Dunno about the Bauxite, but you should be able to find Ruby almost anywhere, it's not restricted to

Greg's own documentation says Rubies are restricted to Deserts, and Bauxite is restricted to Forests and Plains. Regardless, in ExtraBiomes worlds, Ruby and Bauxite are more unpredictable, because it's not fully understood how ExtraBiomes biomes are internally related to vanilla biomes. Mountain Deserts, yeah, that's obvious. But why Meadows get them, I have no idea. Sapphires are limited to Oceans, and that is actually maintained in ExtraBiomes worlds.
 

Zaik

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Greg's own documentation says Rubies are restricted to Deserts, and Bauxite is restricted to Forests and Plains. Regardless, in ExtraBiomes worlds, Ruby and Bauxite are more unpredictable, because it's not fully understood how ExtraBiomes biomes are internally related to vanilla biomes. Mountain Deserts, yeah, that's obvious. But why Meadows get them, I have no idea. Sapphires are limited to Oceans, and that isactually maintained in ExtraBiomes worlds.
I meant to say height. You can find them pretty much anywhere you can find iron in those biomes, as far as I can tell.
 

arkangyl

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I meant to say height. You can find them pretty much anywhere you can find iron in those biomes, as far as I can tell.
Oh, yeah. They don't seem to be height restricted. I've had great success with them at where I usually strip mine, level 5. Too much lava for some folks, but I seem to find lots of goodies there. I've also found a few of them in mountain caves and abandoned mineshafts.
 

Blanq820

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all better! found a savannah biome (after like a 3000x1500 block area... -_-) found a ravine and rubys at the bottom :D
 

Omicron

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Note that running IC2 Miners won't yield you any rubies unless you make the Miner aware of them. IC2's config file has a list of IDs that the Miner looks for and attempts to mine. If the ID of rubies is not in that list, it will ignore them (just like any other not listed block).

Also note that rubies are rare, and GregTech stuff uses a LOT of them. You might want to craft a Rockcutter so you can silktouch the ruby ore and macerate it for double yield (this is the intended GregTech mechanic for the player to deal with the ruby shortage). The Rockcutter also works on everything else that doesn't drop itself by default, allowing you to double yield on things such as: emeralds, sapphires, redstone, coal, iridium (!), lapis lazuli, uranium...
 

danny75

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We've found most of our rubies in a mystcraft age, however we have been using dense ores (just one symbol, with plains and extreme hills). Still, we've found 10 times more diamonds than rubies and sapphires. Atm, we're running two max size quarries in a plains biome, where we got to about level 40...and so far yielded 3 stacks of bauxite.

We're currently aiming for a Fusion reactor, where you need to make 96 highly advanced machines for the fusion coils. Each coil requires 4 titanium ingots. You get 1 titanium powder from 24 centrifuged bauxite dust (that alone takes 40ish minutes to process). You lose the will to live when you do the actual maths and work out how much bauxite and time needed to complete the reactor.

When we started with the beta pack, we agreed on the server that we would not have dense ores worlds when the official pack was released, as it seemed OP....not so sure now. We're even down to the last couple stacks of copper....!!!!!
 

b0bst3r

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However, for whatever weird reason Ruby will not spawn in a Mystcraft world. I spent an hour shooting up a forest with a mining laser on explosive/gravity chestplate/IDSU to recharge. It won't generate.

That's incorrect it's abundant in the mystcraft world designated as a mining world on the server I play on, in desert and wasteland biomes.
 

MilConDoin

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Note that running IC2 Miners won't yield you any rubies unless you make the Miner aware of them. IC2's config file has a list of IDs that the Miner looks for and attempts to mine. If the ID of rubies is not in that list, it will ignore them (just like any other not listed block).

GregTech in the current FTBBETAA doesn't add the ores on its own to the miner. But the current version for 1.4.5 does that for you. It adds all potentially valuable ores the GregTech coder knows of from the ore dictionary to the miners list on its own.
 

b0bst3r

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Shame Gregtech is cited for removal/disabling cos the whiners won from the ultimate pack :mad:
 

danny75

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Shame Gregtech is cited for removal/disabling cos the whiners won from the ultimate pack :mad:

wait, what? even though i spout several expletives when working with gregtech stuff, i enjoy the challenge. if the whiners don't like it, have them simply remove the mod from their pack or configure the settings to revert back to 'easy'. pffft

(are these the same whiners who moan about the rp2 delay?....i bet they are)
 

Minethulhu

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It'd be a shame if Gregtech were removed/disabled. While I can't say I was a fan initially, it is forcing me to look at other mods for early game stuff. This added challenge keeps the game from stagnating.

For any that hate what Gregtech has done to early IC2, take a look at Thermal Expansion. I've arbitrarily decided to throw in the hobbyist steam engine from railcraft for power and am burning a renewable resource. Started with a manual tree farm, now moving to a Forestry tree farm (that I'm in the process of making self sustaining with other Forestry farms). Early on, I don't even need to worry about rubber trees! Plus, I can use the TE redstone energy cells to easily power a temporary quarry (although have yet to do this, so not sure if it'll be enough juice).

I wonder how folks that run FTB servers would view this? So many (warning, bad word coming) Tekkit server operators disabled portions (or all of EE2) due to it being unbalancing. Wondering if FTB server operators will view Gregtech in the similar view of adding balance in the long term...
 

Codex

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Yeah, gregtech has its merits.

Especially making the mass fabricator much less OP. I can place some upgraded solars next to it and have all the UU matter I will ever need. The matter fabricator seems to solve this, my only gripe being that it requires so much iridium to get off the ground. If it required a bit less iridium I would be all for it.