But by the time you have potions to use chances are you're far enough to make a basic start at the engines already in place. Thus defeating the purpose of a person powered engine
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Just like to point out you're talking 'Steve Strength' rather than human- someone who can carry 2034 cubic metres of gold.
I guess the only real use for such a mechanic would be checking you've set everything correctly by manually rotating shafts, before you turn on the engines and break stuff.
Its a nice idea, but the amount of effort in integrating such a system doesn't seem to match the returns in gameplay value.
Not IRL realism in the slightest, but minecraft realism would kinda fit a high torque-low speed setup.
The only problem with any player driven mechanic is its open to abuse via artificial players [activators, turtles ect], resulting in some needlessly complex additions to prevent abuse or a lower output so the abuse isn't worthwhile- in which case just use a low grade engine.
I guess the only real use for such a mechanic would be checking you've set everything correctly by manually rotating shafts, before you turn on the engines and break stuff.
Its a nice idea, but the amount of effort in integrating such a system doesn't seem to match the returns in gameplay value.
No. Those are animal-powered. I'm referring to something along the lines of bibliocraft chairs. You get on them and press the forward key.
I meant in regards to your thought of using horses. Though you're idea would also work for horses as well
Thank you for a great response Reika. Now it's time for my counter response.
Couldn't you just set the block above it to isdirectlypowered and then force a block update? I remember being able to do this in Bukkit so i'm not sure why it would be unavailable in forge.
Maybe something else can be done. The page system is a user interface mess. It makes sense on a coding level since you can save 11 inventories in a table but as far as playing it in game I would much rather just use AE or Iron Chest for all my storage needs.
Case and point. As soon as you place the gearbox it becomes damaged. Perhaps a good 5 seconds of break immunity after you place a gear so I don't have to waste a gear repairing an instant 1% damage.
Really? I noticed that a stone gearbox on speed can handle a load that destroys steel gearboxes on torque.
I suppose this is just a case of error between the monitor and the chair.
Flywheels are used all the time in real life for power storage. I would have assumed that was the intended purpose. I use the gold flywheels for power storage because you can chain them in a line and get a nice consistent power output without wasting when I pull the clutch off. Unlike coils you can put power into these while still getting power out of them. The only thing that makes them suck is the bug where flywheels use the torque they receive as their own causing the first flywheel in the group to stop dead in its tracks when I cut off power.
That's good to hear.
Two 16x gears, still takes up less space than the HRG.
If it's not intended for precise control and it's main purpose is to make diamond with the compactor then what's the point in using it? You can easily get a stable 900C by starting a fire under the compactor in the nether
The friction heater only seems to work on the blast and regular furnaces.
:/
Sorry that was a mistake. I mean to put 3x3 and not 4. A 2x2 would dry up almost instantly.
I'm not seeing it. A 3x3 pool of water with a pump and DC engine still produces more water than a DPA with 900,000 speed and torque. By the time the DC pump filled its reservoir, the DPA only managed to fill its to 30,000 mB. The DPA also seems to not want to work sometimes, forcing me to toggle rain before it responds.
Is it even worth replacing? I don't think there's a single player here who actually uses the Light Bridge in a way that couldn't be done with something else.
Fair enough. I just thought it would be neat to have a giant vat for liquid storage.
Okay, I should probably update to v3 next chance I get. Also, please don't talk down to me, I would not turn down the engine volume and then complain that engines are too quiet, and I didn't even touch the config for the most part. It's just that one would expect for a smoke detector to be ear-piercingly loud and travel quite a distance by default as the existing one only travels a pitiful 16 blocks before fading completely.
I want your smoke detector, that's the cutest sound I ever heard.
I suppose giving it 9 million torque wasn't doing it justice.
That sucks. Railcraft needs to fix their code then.
Well i'm the kind of person who uses 30+ aurorials so of course i'm going to build a solar tower from bedrock to sky limit. :3
Couldn't you just set the block above it to isdirectlypowered and then force a block update? I remember being able to do this in Bukkit so i'm not sure why it would be unavailable in forge.
Maybe something else can be done. The page system is a user interface mess. It makes sense on a coding level since you can save 11 inventories in a table but as far as playing it in game I would much rather just use AE or Iron Chest for all my storage needs.
Case and point. As soon as you place the gearbox it becomes damaged. Perhaps a good 5 seconds of break immunity after you place a gear so I don't have to waste a gear repairing an instant 1% damage.
Really? I noticed that a stone gearbox on speed can handle a load that destroys steel gearboxes on torque.
I suppose this is just a case of error between the monitor and the chair.
Flywheels are used all the time in real life for power storage. I would have assumed that was the intended purpose. I use the gold flywheels for power storage because you can chain them in a line and get a nice consistent power output without wasting when I pull the clutch off. Unlike coils you can put power into these while still getting power out of them. The only thing that makes them suck is the bug where flywheels use the torque they receive as their own causing the first flywheel in the group to stop dead in its tracks when I cut off power.
That's good to hear.
Two 16x gears, still takes up less space than the HRG.
If it's not intended for precise control and it's main purpose is to make diamond with the compactor then what's the point in using it? You can easily get a stable 900C by starting a fire under the compactor in the nether
The friction heater only seems to work on the blast and regular furnaces.
:/
Sorry that was a mistake. I mean to put 3x3 and not 4. A 2x2 would dry up almost instantly.
I'm not seeing it. A 3x3 pool of water with a pump and DC engine still produces more water than a DPA with 900,000 speed and torque. By the time the DC pump filled its reservoir, the DPA only managed to fill its to 30,000 mB. The DPA also seems to not want to work sometimes, forcing me to toggle rain before it responds.
Is it even worth replacing? I don't think there's a single player here who actually uses the Light Bridge in a way that couldn't be done with something else.
Fair enough. I just thought it would be neat to have a giant vat for liquid storage.
Okay, I should probably update to v3 next chance I get. Also, please don't talk down to me, I would not turn down the engine volume and then complain that engines are too quiet, and I didn't even touch the config for the most part. It's just that one would expect for a smoke detector to be ear-piercingly loud and travel quite a distance by default as the existing one only travels a pitiful 16 blocks before fading completely.
I want your smoke detector, that's the cutest sound I ever heard.
I suppose giving it 9 million torque wasn't doing it justice.
That sucks. Railcraft needs to fix their code then.
Well i'm the kind of person who uses 30+ aurorials so of course i'm going to build a solar tower from bedrock to sky limit. :3
I didn't think it had a good use either until I accidentally looked up the article for the distillery instead of the fuel enhancer. Behond:
It's pretty slow but because the recipe for everything is so cheap you can stack them. It's certainly a LOT faster than using steam with a grinder, but applying more power doesn't seem to increase the rate in which it processes.
I know that one distillery is enough to keep a magnetostatic running which i'm pretty sure just gave all you a collective orgasm.
It's lubricant. Just pump it into your devices.
As far as I understand you need steam and gearboxes to make canola properly, but with this just use DC engine and gearboxes and pump in oil.
I know that one distillery is enough to keep a magnetostatic running which i'm pretty sure just gave all you a collective orgasm.
It's lubricant. Just pump it into your devices.
As far as I understand you need steam and gearboxes to make canola properly, but with this just use DC engine and gearboxes and pump in oil.
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Omega, you misunderstood my question. Its months since I last used RoC, so I can't recall how much power is required to make lubricant from canola.
To my recollection, you can do it all with zero "real" power (e.g you can get by with magical DC or magical steam, neither of which consume or cost anything to run)
To my recollection, you can do it all with zero "real" power (e.g you can get by with magical DC or magical steam, neither of which consume or cost anything to run)
No, that is not how redstone works. Blocks do not have a state of being powered or not (or any state at all, for that matter); redstone is calculated dynamically.
The scaleable chest is designed for when AE is not even installed. When it is, the chest is useless no matter what the GUI is.
This I can do.
On what engine? All but one of the engines have a much higher speed than torque output.
RC flywheels are for adding a bit of stability to a power supply, for example in the case of people trying to use AC engines but thinking a 1Hz clock is sufficient.
Vertically, yes. Linearly, no.
Which is just asking for an explosion.
Untrue.
A pump on minimum power generates less than 1 bucket a second. Most machines, including sprinklers, cannot operate on that.
That is inherent in the MC sound engine.
Why so much hate towards light bridges? They' re cool, no matter how useless or unrealistic they are
Wow, massive respect to the Bukkit team for finding a way. In their API it was a simple as setting a block as "directly powered" and it would behave like a redstone block until it was redstone updated. You could also set a block as "indirectly powered" and it would work like a block with a redstone wire going into it. I remember playing with it back in my plugin dev days.
Not really. AE is extremely power hungry and the relatively low power requirements of the scaleable chest make it much more worth it. There's also the added security of being able to lock it by taking out the power source which is great if you have a protected area where chest opening is allowed; a staple of any good raid server. The reason I never use it or want to use it is because it's faster to close the GUI and move your mouse slightly over to another chest than it is to move your mouse all the way to the page arrows and click the relatively small button.
Thank you! This saves from so much early-game frustration!
In this case it was the AC Electric engine.
They're great for smoothing a varying input into a stable output but why limit them to that? They should be a viable power storage option of their own; even if it's more expensive than the alternatives. Short of EletriCraft, there's no alternative to the flywheel to store power at the same time as you unleash it.
If you want to cheat and use tesseracts, than yes. Most people don't build their lubricant sources under their gearboxes. If you're going to pay lubricant, and lots of it, for space saving it had better be worth it. In almost all cases the HRG would get in the way more than 2 CVTs or bedrock gearboxes.
If you understand the heating system you will always be in 100% control since there's a temperature cap. Fire in the nether caps off at 900C and lava varies slightly based on your biome but won't destroy most of your devices if proper cooling is maintained and you're not in a desert.
I know. It's just every time I try to use the friction heater for something other than a furnace it doesn't seem to do anything so I've stopped trying.
It's still vastly more effective than the DPA. I'm not sure if i'm doing it wrong or if it's just broken but i'm getting terrible yields from it, even at absurd power inputs.
I know this isn't true because you can set the 'volume' of a sound in the /playsound command. The 'volume' arugment determines how far the sound travels. Each value is the equivalent of 1 meter, and you can get it to travel over 10 thousand meters. You can imagine the WTFs I got when I played the ender dragon death sound at 10,000 'volume' and half speed during peak hours on this one server by using ComputerCraft and OpenPeripherals. I know in the code there's another argument that multiplies the actual sound itself, which is what I think you're referring to and have been using for your sounds.
OK, two engines.
Or you can run the pipes under the gearboxes.
None of the above is true. Some sounds, like the wither spawn and EnderDragon death, play at equal volume regardless of distance - something hardcoded into the sound engine - but aside from that, all sounds cut off at 16 blocks.
What about things like the howler alarm from Nuclear Control? That goes much farther than 16 blocks.
I just looked into it. It plays the sound at multiple locations - actually spawning "TileEntitySound" around it - to accomplish this.