Mod Feedback [By Request] RotaryCraft Suggestions

[Azzanine]

If big corporations refuse to support legacy software what obliges you, Reika to support. What makes you think it's viable for you a hobbyist to be able to support everything.
I know why you are trying, to prevent inevitable backlash, this is more of a rhetorical question.

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[keybounce]

Java 4? 5? Forge requires at least 6, last I checked (I could not use forge on a Java 5 PPC mac, for example).

 

[TomeWyrm]

That exact problem is why RR3 ships with something called "Java7Checker". Just make Dragon API do something similar in the very beginning of its load. If you're not running Java 7, pop up a custom error screen or something so that uses don't think it's a standard error (which they think are arcane and don't process in any way). Problem solved as much as it's going to be. At some point you're putting too much effort into avoiding upsetting people who really REALLY ought to know better. Using j7 will be required sometime soon with either Minecraft or Forge, and most mods already require it. So why not?

 

[Reika]

If big corporations refuse to support legacy software what obliges you, Reika to support. What makes you think it's viable for you a hobbyist to be able to support everything.
I know why you are trying, to prevent inevitable backlash, this is more of a rhetorical question.

Because I want it to be compatible without having to update other mods, as that is not always possible?

That exact problem is why RR3 ships with something called "Java7Checker". Just make Dragon API do something similar in the very beginning of its load. If you're not running Java 7, pop up a custom error screen or something so that uses don't think it's a standard error (which they think are arcane and don't process in any way). Problem solved as much as it's going to be. At some point you're putting too much effort into avoiding upsetting people who really REALLY ought to know better. Using j7 will be required sometime soon with either Minecraft or Forge, and most mods already require it. So why not?

Because I know 200 people who will start calling that DRM.


Also, v7 is out.

 

[Rubyheart]

I like how you just casually toss out that you have a major mod update out now, haha. I'll update my server as soon as I get home, I was just about to make my first blast furnace of this world too.

 

[TomeWyrm]

If they do, point at Java7Checker, tell them to shut it, and move on.

 

[Elliot B.]

Thanks for the new update!

 

[acnotalpha]

For whatever reason Mediafire isn't letting me download most of the new files yet. So I had a suggestion: take advantage of Github's free release hosting: https://help.github.com/articles/distributing-large-binaries/. This seems like an easier workflow than Mediafire, and you can have direct links instead of going through an ad page. I think this would also solve #117.

 

[keybounce]

Ohh! How about an extreme gear?

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/0...n-gearing-device-offers-an-amazing-gear-ratio

 

[Celestialphoenix]

RoC has a minimum torque of 1Nm (and min speed of 1Rad/s? -never tested), to just to make that ratio work you'll need 11,000,000 rad/s [or Nm].

A smaller "extreme ratio" might be useful (such as 1024:1 or 4096:1) ...assuming it doesn't overshadow the current high-ratio gear.​

 

[Reika]

RoC has a minimum torque of 1Nm (and min speed of 1Rad/s? -never tested), to just to make that ratio work you'll need 11,000,000 rad/s [or Nm].

A smaller "extreme ratio" might be useful (such as 1024:1 or 4096:1) ...assuming it doesn't overshadow the current high-ratio gear.​

Even ratios that large rarely find a use.

 

[keybounce]

RotaryCraft: Hydrokinetic can now be driven by other fluids; density affects torque generation

Hmm ... so what's the density of flowing lava in the nether?

RotaryCraft: Lubricant hose is now flammable, and can burn violently if full of lubricant

So ... trying this in the nether will cause a fire?

What power sources work in the nether?

 

[Reika]

Hmm ... so what's the density of flowing lava in the nether?

The same as in the overworld, about 3000 kg/m^3.

So ... trying this in the nether will cause a fire?

Not unless fire is nearby.

 

[ReignOfMagic]

The same as in the overworld, about 3000 kg/m^3.


Not unless fire is nearby.

So what I am seeing is that flowing lava has 3x the density (so therefore much higher power output) as opposed to water... BRB MAKING MY HYDROKENETIC DRIVES LAVAKENETIC DRIVES

 

[Reika]

So what I am seeing is that flowing lava has 3x the density (so therefore much higher power output) as opposed to water... BRB MAKING MY HYDROKENETIC DRIVES LAVAKENETIC DRIVES

*evil grin*


Also, v7b is out.

 

[ReignOfMagic]

*evil grin*


Also, v7b is out.

I more than a little like your evil grin.

Also, before i go too crazy with testing, did you add any molten metals interaction with this such as molten iron, gold, bedrockium etc?... I'm going to guess you did

*edit*
ok.. so the hydrokenetic blew up with a 64block fall of lava

*edit 2*
Just blew up from a 2 block fall... I'm blaming lube or version a release until I figure out if something else can be used as lube

 

[MongrelVigor]

I was wondering about crushed ice

 

[ReignOfMagic]

I was wondering about crushed ice

Slightly lower power than water, So far it seems blood (bucket of life) from blood magic is your best bet at twice the power per block it has fallen

 

[MongrelVigor]

That is kinda awesome and wonderfully macabre

 

[RavynousHunter]

Ooh, ooh! I know why the lava failed! It failed for the same reason pyrotheum would fail...think about it. What's a hydrokinetic made from? Makes sense now, don't it?

Also, wouldn't gelid cryotheum have a higher density than blood? If you do it right, I think you can get it falling without it gelling its way down, resulting in greater output than blood. Its worth a try!