Buildcraft MJ to IC EU?

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Dackstrus

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Maybe i'm just missing seomthing, or hav'nt noticed a block... >.> But how does one turn MJ into EU?

Or is this currently (On mindcrack at least) Impossible?
 

ItharianEngineering

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Steam boiler lets you create a turbine to generate EU from it, Electrical engine uses EU to generate MJ, Using the magma crucible you can create lava and use it to fuel a geothermal to generate EU. There isn't a direct path from MJ to EU that I know of however.
 

Saice

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Not easy or directly. The main ways are using MJ to create lava, steam, or Biomass/fuel and then using that in something that makes EU.
 

Abdiel

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Magma Crucible creating lava from cobblestone generated by an Igneous Extruder, and feeding the lava into Geothermal Generators or Thermal Generators if you have GregTech (more fuel efficient) is probably the most efficient and compact way.
 

Bibble

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Looking for an XY problem here. What is the actual setup that you have in which you are wanting to make the conversion? What is your BC fuel source which you can't also use for IC?
 

Daemonblue

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There are diesel generators in gregtech, plus the petroleum generator in the mindcrack pack.
 

Zjarek_S

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@Daemonblue: their output is a lot smaller than simple engine -> crucible (with Ign.Ext) -> geogen. The best way of generating constant stream of EU from (bio)fuel is to use steam turbine, specially that in current "showmen" packs iron is quite abundant.
 

Daemonblue

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I know, it just seems like he didn't want to go about it the roundabout way and just wanted a direct conversion, looking at his reply of looking for a power converter mod. If you've read some of my other posts in other threads you'd probably notice I try to work towards the most efficient systems possible.
 

jnads

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The others are correct, there is not MJ to EU conversion directly.

However you can use a ThermalExpansion Igneous Extruder to make free Cobblestone (no energy required), and set a Magma Crucible next to it to make lava (no piping required), then pipe the Magma Crucible lava to a IC2 Geothermal Generator.

20,000 MJ on Cobble makes 1 lava bucket. 1 lava bucket on a IC2 Geo makes 20,000 EU @ 20 EU/t. So this is a 1:1 conversion. If you use netherrack you can do 1:2.5,

Aside from gold, the cost of the ThermalExpansion machines are relatively cheap.

It's much friendlier than IC2->BC conversion, since electrical engines are at best 2.5:1.


If you install the Power Converters mod, it does 1:1 conversion, and still requires a machine. As you can see, having the ThermalExpansion set-up is better if you want to use it long-term (plop a chest with stacks upon stacks of netherrack in it and the TE Magma Crucible will suck from it..... that will last for many real-world days).

Power Converters requires a machine to generate the 1:1 conversion, so this only consumes 1 extra space (arguably none since you can stack TE machines on top of each other and set the color codes to output the bottom and input the top).
 
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Tesmetron

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Also don't forget that if you have Gregtech, there is an upgraded Geothermal Generator that makes 50% more EU per lava bucket. If you're using cobble in your Magma Crucible, thats a 1:1.5 MJ to EU ratio, and if you're using Netherrack, it's 1:3.75 (i think).
 

Daemonblue

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The only problem with the Thermal Generator is it requires invar and hardened glass. Not entirely too bad, but not something you'll generally be able to produce right off the bat., so you'll at least want some energy storage before using a geothermal to upgrade into a thermal.
 

Tesmetron

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I'm just speaking from personal experience. By the time I started setting up my geothermals I already had a pulverizer, rolling machine, and compressor, so I had the stuff to make invar and hardened glass already. All that previously useless ferrous ore equals nickel in Gregtech, and that plus 2 iron dust = invar. Also, pulverizing iron now has a 5% chance for additional ferrous dust. Also, don't forget that the thermal generator has an internal storage of 1 million EU.
 

Daemonblue

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Yea, for the energy storage I meant for while you're making it, so you have an energy buffer while actually making the thing just in case, as well as so you don't end up removing a generator that's nearly full of lava. Like I said, it's not THAT difficult, and most people will pulverize ferrous ore for shiny dust (platinum) anyway, but it's something you'll generally want to plan out if your main source of EU is a single geothermal and you use it consistently. It's better to be over-prepared than adequately prepared so you can more readily overcome any unforseen circumstances. Now back to making my blaze trap. those thing's rods can be quite useful since you can get coal dust of em after enough processing, so blazes = diamonds!

Sadly, the only thing holding me back from a blast furnace are slimes, go figure.
 

Dackstrus

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The others are correct, there is not MJ to EU conversion directly.

However you can use a ThermalExpansion Igneous Extruder to make free Cobblestone (no energy required), and set a Magma Crucible next to it to make lava (no piping required), then pipe the Magma Crucible lava to a IC2 Geothermal Generator.

20,000 MJ on Cobble makes 1 lava bucket. 1 lava bucket on a IC2 Geo makes 20,000 EU @ 20 EU/t. So this is a 1:1 conversion. If you use netherrack you can do 1:2.5,

Aside from gold, the cost of the ThermalExpansion machines are relatively cheap.

It's much friendlier than IC2->BC conversion, since electrical engines are at best 2.5:1.


If you install the Power Converters mod, it does 1:1 conversion, and still requires a machine. As you can see, having the ThermalExpansion set-up is better if you want to use it long-term (plop a chest with stacks upon stacks of netherrack in it and the TE Magma Crucible will suck from it..... that will last for many real-world days).

Power Converters requires a machine to generate the 1:1 conversion, so this only consumes 1 extra space (arguably none since you can stack TE machines on top of each other and set the color codes to output the bottom and input the top).


This is the most beautiful post i've seen. Not only do you give me numbers, But you give the the ratios.

Also sorry, I'm normally rather busy, So i hav'nt had a chance to even get on MC.

And this sounds like it'll work for me i suppose, I just prefer not to have to stuff in even more mats to get a decent power grid going.

Edit: IE Netherrack. Because why would'nt i abuse that ratio?
 

Icarus White

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Yea, for the energy storage I meant for while you're making it, so you have an energy buffer while actually making the thing just in case, as well as so you don't end up removing a generator that's nearly full of lava. Like I said, it's not THAT difficult, and most people will pulverize ferrous ore for shiny dust (platinum) anyway, but it's something you'll generally want to plan out if your main source of EU is a single geothermal and you use it consistently. It's better to be over-prepared than adequately prepared so you can more readily overcome any unforseen circumstances. Now back to making my blaze trap. those thing's rods can be quite useful since you can get coal dust of em after enough processing, so blazes = diamonds!

Sadly, the only thing holding me back from a blast furnace are slimes, go figure.

If you feel like being clever, I seem to recall a couple alternate ways to get slimeballs:

Allegedly a factorization crystallizer can get them, painfully slowly.

Alternatively you could get some bees together to make pollen (warning: that's a rather long breeding process, although luckily you don't have to move around a whole lot for it), then craft pollen and propolis into slime.
 

Daemonblue

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I knew about the bees thing, but don't want to mess with them until I've started working on my main base. As for the crystallizer....if it's just using that then it shouldn't be too bad, but I didn't see anything about it in NEI.