before I put this this in a bug thread... BC lasers
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It's the conductive pipes that have lossless transfer. Machines drain power constantly even when they don't have any work. And yeah it's like the rolling machine but you don't see the stored power for Forestry machines by default. Assembly table shows the lasers' combined power stats.
This means you should size your power generation to match power usage and turn the engines off when machines are not in use.
This means you should size your power generation to match power usage and turn the engines off when machines are not in use.
I think I see what your saying... I have been using a tandom of TE power delivery and storage with the bc machines. It was just weird that I haven't experienced it ever using them in 1.4.7. Maybe I didn't notice it because because I was running something at the time or had just installed my AE system at about the same time. I have never known laser to eat power while doing anything, but maybe I just assumed it was something else. oh well.
Under the new system, all Buildcraft machines do. Except the pump.
Lasers are just one of the few Buildcraft machines that actually have the ability to run idle (a quarry can't, for example, unless it has hit bedrock and has no more blocks left to break).
Lasers are just one of the few Buildcraft machines that actually have the ability to run idle (a quarry can't, for example, unless it has hit bedrock and has no more blocks left to break).
it had to be a bug or a "feature" in 1.5.2+ BC oh well... I'll just need another redstone cell to be a "circuit breaker" for it.
Before Buildcraft 3.7.1, Conductive Pipes were heavily lossy, and prone to explosion. In 3.7.1, that loss and any risk of explosion was removed, but instead pipes have a maximum energy transfer rate, and each device drains a specific amount of energy even when not running. For most machines, this is 1 MJ/t, but there are exceptions (the Quarry uses 2 MJ/t, Forestry Multifarms use 0 MJ every 100 ticks).
Lasers are specifically set to a PowerPerdition of 1 MJ/tick, and were set explicitly to that value even when the default PowerPerdition was 1MJ/100 ticks, so it's probably intentional. Their internal storage is only 1000 MJ, so their storage should fill pretty quickly in most networks, and but the drain can add up. Some manner of adding and removing power connectivity -- or even dedicating a separate bank of engines -- may be recommended here.
Is this all part of that push to make Buildcraft energy The Not-Industrialcraft?
It was mostly a push to make Conductive Pipes more than just the thing you use until you get Energy Conduits.
The new buildcraft is so weird because it asks so much but... it really does very little. I feel like Buildcraft as a pure meta-and-management tool (so ignore processing from railcraft and organics from forestry) is like profoundly incomplete without Logistics pipes or something that can further make pipes work intelligently. It's like... crazy that buildcraft still cannot do something as simple as fill up a vanilla furnace with coal efficiently. Vanilla automation can do it perfectly AND can do things like switch amongst fuel sources, etc.
And gates are good for some things, but usually those things are not actually item management but rather liquid or power management.
I hard Krapht talk recently about scaling things back, but right now pipes are worse than vanilla mechanics for most things (except that pipes are marginally cheaper). I wish I understood their plan. At least gates have slightly more control over spitting items into the network now.