riewe you are a genius. I tried it on this computer and it worked flawlessly. It's "-XX(Colon)PermSize=128m" in case someone else needs it. I went home and went to use the same thing and it was already in there. That was the machine that worked great. I had forgotten I had made the change there. Thanks to everyone who worked on this with me. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program "Tending the Bees".