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Bee Storage?
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LOL, that's really high-end. I'll eventually get there. But as long as I don't know which stack of drones I might need for breeding the next hour, I must keep a store.I don't keep any bees. I only keep the serum vials. I'm too lazy to count them, but I have three diamond chests, one of them has all my trait serums with some species overflow, the other two chest are organized manually by Forestry and Extra Bees species, and Magic Bee species. In this current Monster world I'm playing, I think I've made about 95% of the bee species. Some just aren't worth making but most do have some function somewhere along the way.
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tl;dr: For me, bees have always been manually intensive until I reach this point... then it's not intensive at all, it's "set-and-forget". I enjoy the manually intensive part of breeding bees from Meadows/Forest and making all the different species. But that's just me.
I do like the breeding, even though it's a huge time sink. Well, it just happened my primary requirement could only be fulfilled by a bee at the end of Magic Bees' "tech tree", and I had to start from zero with little knowledge of bee breeding. That was quite the learning experience while slogging through the Apis/Imperial/Industrious/Veiled/Arcane/Supernatural/Aware/Soulful branches. Now one step away from the Soul bee. Land in sight... Getting the glowstone and nether crystal species will be a cakewalk compared to this. The uranium one will be about as complex.
Get a goal in mind for which specific bee type you want next, check the breeding path in NEI. These days it's pretty easy.
I remember when all this was fields *grumbles*
The uranium one is annoying like a lot of the more abstruse types because each one has 1x fertility by default so even if you inject 4x fertility serum into all your breeding stock, it'll just get reset with each mutation more often than not. Oh and unstable effect is annoying as shit unless you have apiarist gear or apiarist MPS upgrades.
As for which bees to keep and which to liquidise, if they don't have a trait I want to isolate or a species that's part of the current plan, they go into the bee genocide machine. Oh except the princesses, I keep all of those for inoculation purposes.
It is. But I don't have encyclopaedic knowledge of bee species, and thus I don't know which additional species I might want tomorrow.
Take it one step higher, pick a resource you want bees to make and check in NEI to see which bee species you need to make it.
NEI is basically the google machine
Personally I make a "Genebank bunker" or something like it with a chest for each species. Here I will keep only the pure stable princess' and a couple stacks of drones in each chest and mark them with signs. This is my backup storage for all the species in case I loose some or that I need some for further cross-breeding. I don't personally feel I have the same control over my stock with AE or in the Indexer, which is why I choose to do it like this.
All the "virgin" bees collected from the wild are kept in a Indexer.
Anything else is automatically transported to Genepools and destroyed(hybrid drones and overflowing drones from filled up hives).
More than this I don't feel a need to store a lot of bees. As long as I have a couple of Princess' or at least a couple stacks of Drones down in the Genebank chests of each species, I can continue that species. Everything else that isn't those pure stable breeds gets destroyed(there is no point in collecting those).
All the "virgin" bees collected from the wild are kept in a Indexer.
Anything else is automatically transported to Genepools and destroyed(hybrid drones and overflowing drones from filled up hives).
More than this I don't feel a need to store a lot of bees. As long as I have a couple of Princess' or at least a couple stacks of Drones down in the Genebank chests of each species, I can continue that species. Everything else that isn't those pure stable breeds gets destroyed(there is no point in collecting those).
I don't really see the point of filing cabinets if you have access to the Indexer. Indexer is far superior with different sorting filters and information on the bees etc.[DOUBLEPOST=1402693662][/DOUBLEPOST]
This is what I prefer to use:
http://ftbwiki.org/Bee_Species
I know that list. It's just too many species to keep memorized.
As for the storage problem, I've found it's best to use a big buffer chest for the drones, wait until a species' genome has stabilized and you get identical drones, wait until you've got a stack of them and store it in the Indexer manually, and then trash everything that comes out of your apiaries with itemducts or EnderIO conduits using the NBT data for selection, so that only exactly identical drones will be extracted. That way, you only ever need to pay attention to those species you're working on.
If only there were item conduits with more than ten selection slots....too bad the LP BeeSink doesn't work as it should. I guess I have another application for the Transvector Interface.
I just don't personally get that. If you have a stack of drones stored away(that's enough to clone 5-6 Princess at least), and you have up to a stack of drones in each hive running that bee, how many more drones of that kind do you need to store?
If I would connect the exports of my production bees up to a Indexer it would store thousands upon thousands of drones in no time. I really don't see the need for that. I either Trashcan or Genepool them.