Bee breeding question

  • Please make sure you are posting in the correct place. Server ads go here and modpack bugs go here
  • The FTB Forum is now read-only, and is here as an archive. To participate in our community discussions, please join our Discord! https://ftb.team/discord

DoctorOr

New Member
Jul 29, 2019
1,735
0
0
Here's an example:

2013-03-26_20.41.00.png

What is on the right, "inactive" side is a copy of my base bee serum'ed to noble. Bred with a resilient, which also came from my base bee with a serum applied, impregnable is the mutation. On the active side is an exact copy of the database entry for impregnable except that the maximum area of effect on my base bee is the same "priority" (both recessive) as the mutated bee, so they might swap like they did in this case. Also, both pollination traits are dominate, so they also might have swapped but actually didn't.

Actually, I'll use this as a step by step on isolating a breed:

The princess didn't mutate, but I did get a second drone that is a hybrid impregnable/noble. I'll set the second drone aside in case I lose the breed - which is actually extremely unlikely at a 4x fertility. I'll be breeding the new impregnable hybrid drones with the hybrid of the two originating breeds for the mutation that resulted from the last generation.

2013-03-26_20.57.28.png

This is actually sub-optimal, as I should be using a purebred resilient bee, because its the opposite of the noble bee in the impregnable hybrid. There's a chance the bee could mutate again, but generally its not worth the effort.

Now, this is where somebody will comment that I shouldn't be using longer lifespan. Then somebody else will say I should use chocolate frames. And yes, if I was sitting here staring at the apiary waiting for it to finish that would be correct. The simple fact is, I don't and the princess and new drones generally sits there waiting for me anyways. Like now, I'm going to dinner....next generation when I return.

So, next generation: Two resilient/noble hybrids and a purebred noble. They all get liquified. The fourth drone is Resilient/Impregnable, and the princess is Resilient/Noble...aww, no progress. In fact, the princess is no longer 4x fertility as the dominate trait, so will make a stop off at the inoculator. (Actually, I inoculated both bees, so that unless there's another mutation it will always have 4x)

Third generation: winnawinnachickendinna. The princess is Impregnable/resilient and I have two drones to choose from. One is impregnable/resilient and the other is impregnable/noble. I'm choosing the noble drone for the small chance of a mutation, but the hardest part is done. Two hybrid bees have a 25% chance of producing a pure blooded impregnable, with a total of five chances per generation.

Fourth generation: A full blooded impregnable drone, as well as an impregnable/noble. I set aside the noble hybrid (I've been setting aside all "extras" of drones that have the breed I'm trying to get, just in case the worst happens and it disappears from the bees I'm breeding.) The princess is a hybrid of impregnable/noble, and with the full breed and one hybrid there is now a 50% chance of each bee being full blooded impregnable. All of them will be at least a hybrid.

And fifth generation: Both a full blooded princess and drone. At this point I can throw all hybrids and all but one pure blooded impregnable drone into the isolater. Which, I do and get a serum, so I'm done. I can throw the princess I've been using back in the cloning pool, and take out as many as I want of impregnable bees to imprint and use for produciton.
 

Maldroth

New Member
Jul 29, 2019
169
0
0
I see where I went wrong now. I failed to take into account Dominant and Recessive traits when a bee is created. When the mutation happened while trying to get my Heroic bee the calculations looked at the Valiant/Steadfast hybrid It brought over the Heroic stats and tested each one for Dominant/Recessive. The Heroic effect is Recessive and was tested against the Valiant's None effect and since that was Dominant it won out. From what I read in the Forestry Wiki there is a chance and Dominant has a greater chance of showing up when compared against Recessive. The result was I had a Steadfast/Heroic drone with both Active and Inactive traits for Effect showing None. This meant I had to breed another round of Valiant/Steadfast to get a mutation and hope that Heroic would win out.

I should note I'm not using any Extra Bee machines here just natural selection here.