Bee Breeding and DNA

[namiasdf]

Just to clear things up:

Sequencers make templates, which then can be spliced onto bees using the splicer.

Isolators produce serums which can be modified using the synthesizer and purifier. Serums can be replicated using the replicator and then injected into bees using the Inoculator.

Acclimatisers adjust the climate conditions to which a bee will work in.


So if you want to reproduce a certain bee, traits & species, sequencing is the way to go. To modify traits specifically for your own needs, inoculation is the way to go.

I am just figuring out how I'm going to organize these machine holy sh--... Also, ghast tear-getting strategies? I could safari net one, but I don't have the infrastructure set up, nor do I have all the variables confirmed for my mob-resource system at this moment...

I guess go kill them? What are the drop rates like? Abysmal?

 

[Skullywag]

drops on ghasts are not bad, but remember twilight forest has its own ghast mob....hint...hint...

 

[Bibble]

If I recall correctly, sequencing only works for hive bees (i.e. the ones in the world). Serums are intended to be where you're at when you get to proper breeding.

For ghast tears, I think either TConstruct or Natura (probably the former) boosts the mob drop rate (more leather, guaranteed ghast tear, etc.), if you're on a 1.5.2 pack, otherwise, they seemed to be about 1/4 without looting. TO harvest them, you really need a flying apparatus of some sort, and I'd probably advise going for the Twilight ones, rather than the Nether ones, as there's less chance of the tears falling in lava and being destroyed.

 

[namiasdf]

Ah yes, looting. I'll have to make a sword for that. Does looting go on bows?

How is sequencing ever useful then? It would allow you to have replicable copies of a set of traits, for future use. You wouldn't have to worry about losing those traits, since you can use the templates infinite times. Inoculation is when you want to get to the nitty gritty of breeding. I would presume you would do it near the end, throw long life + fast worker + nocturnal + whatever else you couldn't get through breeding, I presume.

I would always inoculate shortest life for breeding purposes, then when I've achieved a stable pair of the target species, inoculate whatever other traits I'm missing?

Ah, then sequencing would allow you to make convenient copies of that uber-bee... Okay, finally I understand, phew. That was difficult for me.

 

[Bibble]

Ah yes, looting. I'll have to make a sword for that. Does looting go on bows?

How is sequencing ever useful then? It would allow you to have replicable copies of a set of traits, for future use. You wouldn't have to worry about losing those traits, since you can use the templates infinite times. Inoculation is when you want to get to the nitty gritty of breeding. I would presume you would do it near the end, throw long life + fast worker + nocturnal + whatever else you couldn't get through breeding, I presume.

I would always inoculate shortest life for breeding purposes, then when I've achieved a stable pair of the target species, inoculate whatever other traits I'm missing?

Ah, then sequencing would allow you to make convenient copies of that uber-bee... Okay, finally I understand, phew. That was difficult for me.

Looting is swords only. Sequencing is for "backing up" your base species. For the times that a mutation might need one, or just because you want to go back.

 

[namiasdf]

Hmmmm. I may not need sequencing then. Inside of my lab I plan to have vertical stacks of apiaries containing base-species from various trees. I don't know how much DNA, I will be going through, but this will allow me to generate an awful lot of drones. The extras I can recycle/void if it really comes down to it. This will also allow me to greatly increase my honey production, since I'd like to include that as part of my biomass production scheme as well, eventually.

I just started breeding, but I have a stable pair for common/cultivated, dilligent/unweary/industrious, noble/majestic/imperial with decent traits. Since these aviary stacks are vertical, I have lots of room.

So there are seven machines here, not including the acclimatiser.

Query, will I ever need fans/heaters on alvearies if I used the acclimatiser? Will I always be able to acclimatize my bee or will there be cases where the extra push from the alveary temperature control, will allow me to breed. I am in a normal/normal climate. DNA tank, lava tank, water tank, electrical power, MJ power, AE wiring, waterproof piping, transport piping... This project, why....

 

[Grydian2]

If you use the isolator and inoculator you can create bees with all the traits you want. IE fast productivity, maximum fertility, what it pollinates, and fast tree pollination rate. Use a bee-alyzer to find out what traits each bee has. Then use an isolator to get the traits you want. Put the empty serums into a synthisizer. Then it will have 16 charges (after time and liquid dna) but be awful. Place it in a purifier until it is excellent quality. Then place in an inoculator with the bee you want to change. FYI rocky bees have most of the great traits, IE cave, nocturnal, flyer etc.. I use those to start with and change the bees into the ones I want. You can even change the species of a bee but it will keep all the traits you have already changed. This helps so that once you have a set of good bees working you can always start with one of those drones and then just mutate a rocky queen into what you want. I find this process makes getting bees so much easier then manually breeding them. Another tip... It helps to give both bees max fertility when you are breeding so that you get the most chances to get the bees you want.

 

[namiasdf]

Hmm, that's how I've assumed things to work. You have to isolate the traits from an existing bee right? Is the bee consumed in the process? This might be where the sequencer comes in, allowing you to replicate your loss-wanted trait, bee for further serum production. Though, there is also the replicator for serum duplication.

I guess splicing is so that you have a backup of early bees, should you ever need them. Seems like once you get your common drones, there might never be a need for the sequencer.

 

[namiasdf]

Hmm scrap that.

I guess sequencing is similar to the HGP (human genome project) for all the basic bees. Completing a template for the bee means you have all the traits and the ability to change any bee, into those you have templates of, as well as control over every trait. Seems like something extra to do as well. I don't know how keen I am on having a permanent place in my set up for this, but I may as well...

Do you find yourself needing multiple inoculators/isolators, etc?

 

[Grydian2]

The bee has a 30 percent chance of being consumed. Yes I use 3 inoculators because you have to change queens and drones or it wont work right. But only one gene pool, isolator and purifier. I find I need two synthesizers to keep up with 3 inoculators. Otherwise the times take so long its hardly worth doing. That means you need like 200 MJs per tick being produced. Its definitely mid to late game imo.

 

[namiasdf]

40 combustion engines. >_>... It's doable.

Hmmm. Do you pump your DNA out of a tank? Is one valve enough throughput for the two synthesizers?