auto tesseract redstone energy cell/conduits system (EA on demand) + more tell me what to do next

[Peppe]

If the goal is one crucible and transposer to handle all the TE fillables.
You can use AE, Buildcraft pipes, RP2 sorting machine/filters etc any inventory system after the central AE's interface. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. I could see RP2 sorting machine being the most reliable because you could set matching columns to send out the materials only at the proper time.

To me that solution is much more complex than having a transposer for each liquid type. I then have an interface for each transposer liquid type i use and put the empty = full recipe in the interface.

More detailed description:
AE export bus redstone, glowstone, ender pearls etc into their own magma crucible (or tesseract that connects to several crucibles if you want parallel processing) that feeds directly into a transposer. So you end up with a transposer full of the liquid + crucible full of the liquid + stack of the source item in the crucible -- AE then stocks the crucible with the source item whenever some liquid is used.

ME interface with recipe to return a filled object from an empty object. Interface connects to the transposer or a enderchest or tesseract that inputs into the transposer of that type. Import bus or tesseract/enderchest the filled object back into the AE network. It is just like the furnace recipes -- all AE knows is it drops off an empty frame in the inventory next to this interface and it gets back a filled frame.

 

[KirinDave]

it's the same for making steel from an industerial blast furnace. you cann't do it in one step because it has 2 input slots on different places so you need an step in between

Input to an MFR item router that splits the input. MFR item routers have an internal 1-slot inventory you can have interfaces push to from the top. *drops mic and leaves*

 

[thomboy90]

Input to an MFR item router that splits the input. *drops mic and leaves*

GG kirindave gg

 

[SmokeLuvr1971]

I've been playing with the "using a diamond pipe sorter after the ME Interface" idea in FTB Unleashed and have problems. The redstone dust/ender pears make it into the magma crucible fine, but either the diamond pipe or the Interface is ejecting the empty frame into the world. Diamond pipe is set to let the frames pass on the color for the side that's attached to the Transposer. Transposer is set to blue for side attached to Crucible and to blue where diamond pipe attaches. Interface is attached directly to diamond pipe. Frames pop out whether Interface is wrenched or not.

I'm stumped...Any ideas on what's wrong or am I left with Factorization router / dedicated crucibles as my only options? I'd like an on-demand system that only uses resources when needed and isn't overly complex.

 

[SmokeLuvr1971]

I've been playing with the "using a diamond pipe sorter after the ME Interface" idea in FTB Unleashed and have problems. The redstone dust/ender pears make it into the magma crucible fine, but either the diamond pipe or the Interface is ejecting the empty frame into the world. Diamond pipe is set to let the frames pass on the color for the side that's attached to the Transposer. Transposer is set to blue for side attached to Crucible and to blue where diamond pipe attaches. Interface is attached directly to diamond pipe. Frames pop out whether Interface is wrenched or not.

I'm stumped...Any ideas on what's wrong or am I left with Factorization router / dedicated crucibles as my only options? I'd like an on-demand system that only uses resources when needed and isn't overly complex.

weird...edit isn't working for me.

Anyway. I comprehended the post right above mine regarding Item Routers just as I hit post. They work and are the solution I was looking for.

 

[PierceSG]

With the diamond pipe setup, what I have added are chests on both side of the pipe and hoppers below each chest. One hopper feeds empty tesseracts frames/energy cell frames/conduits into the liquid transposer, while the other feeds redstone dusts/ender pearl pearls into a magma crucible with output set towards the liquid transposer.

But I usually go the simpler but much more expensive path of multiple magma crucible and liquid transposer. One each for redstone, ender pearl and glowstone. One will handle tesseracts, one for redstone energy cell & conduits and lastly, one for the glowstone illuminator. I just have export buses forcefeed redstone/glowstone/ender pearl to the crucibles, and ME Interfaces with the patterns 1 empty stuff = 1 filled stuff on each transposer. Crude but simple and effective.

 

[PhilHibbs]

I think an on- demand system is virtually impossible. If you're using pipes, then requesting 2 RECs will end up with 16 redstone spilled on the floor. If you are using something less spilly like RP2 then ordering a conduit then a tesseract then a conduit will leave you with a tesseract frame and some liquid redstone in the liquid transposer. Maybe LP can do it, as it can treat liquids as items, and might wait until one craft is entirely complete before starting the next, but I don't know if AE can hand off a crafting request to LP like that.

 

[twisto51]

Why is it hard with AE?

By "hard" what direwolf20 was really saying was, "I only have 4 ender pearls in AE right now so I can't really afford to have a full magma crucible of liquid ender just sitting there."

If people want a true "on-demand" system I can think of a number of ways to go about it. Most of them involve one or more of the following alongside AE: turtles(computers/rednet controller/bc gates. It could be as simple as having the recipe send out one item which a turtle/computer is looking for as the "signal" to pulse an export bus for the ender pearls and another to craft the frame, and a 3rd to assemble it. Substitute the turtle/computer for a bc gate and a rednet controller if you'd like.

I don't find any of the on-demand solutions "worth it" except for the enjoyment from making it work. I have magma crucible/liquid transposer pairs setup for each resource and have the recipe dump the container I need into the transposer in question. Simple and effective. Arguments about cost of setting it up make me roll my eyes when we're talking about being able to build tesseracts whenever we feel like it. If you can't afford multiple crucible/transposer pairs I doubt you can afford to be autocrafting Tesseracts in the first place.

 

[PhilHibbs]

If you can't afford multiple crucible/transposer pairs I doubt you can afford to be autocrafting Tesseracts in the first place.

It's not a case of being able to afford it, it's a case of elegance. It's an interesting problem to solve, throwing infinite enderpearls at the problem is no challenge.

 

[PierceSG]

Making autocraft on demand is a challenge, simply making different crucibles+transposers pairs is the simpler way. Neither methods are wrong, some people (like me) just wants it to work, some other players prefer to make it work in a more compact and complicated way because for them, making the idea work is half the fun.

 

[twisto51]

It's not a case of being able to afford it, it's a case of elegance. It's an interesting problem to solve, throwing infinite enderpearls at the problem is no challenge.

You have a magma crucible that can hold infinite ender pearls? What mod is that from? The oriignal poster presented it as a "cheap" option. Clearly it is a case of affording it when presented as such. Please try to read my posts in the context they're presented instead of in a vacuum.

See here:

it posible but that was just the things i didn't want do. i wanted to make a system that is easy cheap and every one could make. but i will try it

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Making autocraft on demand is a challenge, simply making different crucibles+transposers pairs is the simpler way. Neither methods are wrong, some people (like me) just wants it to work, some other players prefer to make it work in a more compact and complicated way because for them, making the idea work is half the fun.

What part of that isn't covered by me saying, "I don't find any of the on-demand solutions "worth it" except for the enjoyment from making it work."

 

[PhilHibbs]

You have a magma crucible that can hold infinite ender pearls? What mod is that from?

Congratulations. You have defeated me with your nit-picking. Thanks for the valuable contribution to the discussion.

 

[twisto51]

Congratulations. You have defeated me with your nit-picking. Thanks for the valuable contribution to the discussion.

Was it any more or less valuable than your gross exaggeration? If you find yourself needing to grossly exaggerate something to defend your position you might want to reconsider the position you're defending.

The sad part is that it didn't need defending as I covered the doing it for the sake of doing it in my post but you conveniently ignored that bit, probably didn't get that far before your undies got knotted.

 

[PierceSG]

Hey chill man, wasn't trying to say you were wrong or something. Just emphasising the point you have stated, that's all.

 

[PhilHibbs]

I used the word "infinte" as shorthand for "just keep sending them as many as it will take". I was in no way trying to twist any arguements by claiming that it actually requires infinity enderpearls in order to work. Seemed pretty obvious to me, I apologise if I appeared to be trying to deceive anyone.

 

[IlliniJeeper]

I just find it easier to have one magma crucible filled with liquid redstone and another one filled with liquid ender (with export buses trying to constantly export into them), each feeding their own dedicated liquid transposer set up with ME interfaces and basic import buses. All of it hidden away in the bowels of my second basement, so I don't care if it's elegant or not.

 

[Guns nButter]

I have solved the problem in what is (almost) the most compact method (I could have dropped one ME interface to combine the induction furnace in, but w/e). The routers can link to each other.

 

[The classless]

hey guys, after seeing direwolf20 video where he said that auto tesseract making is hard a=i tryed it.

here is the result: http://www.mediafire.com/?3b58lfsp1lnqyg1

if you like the map chek me out on youtube at: http://www.youtube.com/user/thomboy90

and if you guys want me to help you with automating more tell me in the comments

a quick description:
maybe you know that with AE (applied energistics) you can make an auto crafting system. but it can do 2 process to make 1 item. so i made an red power 2 sorting machine to make the 2 proseces do. AE drops the items in an chest and it wil say , i dropped the items where they belong now i will wait till the item is in the system, i automated the prosesses and made it output in the system. + it is on demand and can make redsone energy cell and conduits to

Have you used the liquid crafter it forms items that require a liquid to make if you give it the liquid necessary to make it ( added by mine factory reloaded)

 

[Lewis Evelyn]

If you are sending the Ender pearls/Redstone at the same time as the item, how do you know how much liquid each one creates I couldn't find that on the internet ><

 

[thomboy90]

If you are sending the Ender pearls/Redstone at the same time as the item, how do you know how much liquid each one creates I couldn't find that on the internet ><

you need 4 enderpearls for a tesseract and about what i remembered 20 redstone for a energy cell