auto tesseract redstone energy cell/conduits system (EA on demand) + more tell me what to do next

[thomboy90]

hey guys, after seeing direwolf20 video where he said that auto tesseract making is hard a=i tryed it.

here is the result: http://www.mediafire.com/?3b58lfsp1lnqyg1

if you like the map chek me out on youtube at: http://www.youtube.com/user/thomboy90

and if you guys want me to help you with automating more tell me in the comments

a quick description:
maybe you know that with AE (applied energistics) you can make an auto crafting system. but it can do 2 process to make 1 item. so i made an red power 2 sorting machine to make the 2 proseces do. AE drops the items in an chest and it wil say , i dropped the items where they belong now i will wait till the item is in the system, i automated the prosesses and made it output in the system. + it is on demand and can make redsone energy cell and conduits to

 

[Omicron]

Could you provide a quick description of what you did? Some of us are stuck at work with no access to either youtube or Minecraft clients to sate their curiosity

 

[arentol]

Looks like someone else figured it a couple weeks ago....

At least the "hard" part anyway.

 

[KirinDave]

Why is it hard with AE?

 

[Omicron]

Because filling the tesseract requires the AE system to execute two external recipes for a single internal crafting step: inserting the frame into the liquid transposer and, at the same time, the necessary enderpearls into the magma crucible. However, for an external recipe to trigger, it needs to have the exact item requested as its target; and when you provide two external recipes that target the exact same thing, the AE autocrafter by default will simply pick one of them and ignore the other, thinking it'll be enough.

The most straightforward solution I can imagine would be having a liquid transposer always filled up with liquid ender, regardless of whether or not there is demand for more tesseracts. But that is not truly an on-demand autocrafting system, because you're auto-spamming a resource (enderpearls) until the receiving machine (both transposer and crucible in this case) fill up completely, and thereby make it impossible to use this method with your existing infrastructure.

I'm curious as to how people solve it, and I really hope they are more creative than that... but alas, no youtube for me for the next 6-7 hours.

 

[Swoop]

It's not hard. The ME Interfaces can output into pipes.
Just hook it up to a diamond pipe and let it sort the pearls into the crucible and the tesseract into the liquid transposer.

 

[Omicron]

Good point! I didn't even think of that.

The same setup could then also handle redstone energy cells, and redstone conduits, and glowstone illuminators. Fun! I might just have to build that.

 

[thomboy90]

Looks like someone else figured it a couple weeks ago....

At least the "hard" part anyway.

okay i haven't saw that video,but my system can auto make redstone energy cells and redstone energy conduits to[DOUBLEPOST=1369661248][/DOUBLEPOST]

Good point! I didn't even think of that.

The same setup could then also handle redstone energy cells, and redstone conduits, and glowstone illuminators. Fun! I might just have to build that.

i made one magma crucible and 1 liquid transposer make all of them and when i update i will at the glowstone lamps to [DOUBLEPOST=1369661367][/DOUBLEPOST]

It's not hard. The ME Interfaces can output into pipes.
Just hook it up to a diamond pipe and let it sort the pearls into the crucible and the tesseract into the liquid transposer.

yeah that's a way. i used the redpower sorting machine so i can make redstone enrgycell and conduits in the same crucible and transposer. + this way there will never be over flow and the items drop

 

[thomboy90]

Because filling the tesseract requires the AE system to execute two external recipes for a single internal crafting step: inserting the frame into the liquid transposer and, at the same time, the necessary enderpearls into the magma crucible. However, for an external recipe to trigger, it needs to have the exact item requested as its target; and when you provide two external recipes that target the exact same thing, the AE autocrafter by default will simply pick one of them and ignore the other, thinking it'll be enough.

The most straightforward solution I can imagine would be having a liquid transposer always filled up with liquid ender, regardless of whether or not there is demand for more tesseracts. But that is not truly an on-demand autocrafting system, because you're auto-spamming a resource (enderpearls) until the receiving machine (both transposer and crucible in this case) fill up completely, and thereby make it impossible to use this method with your existing infrastructure.

I'm curious as to how people solve it, and I really hope they are more creative than that... but alas, no youtube for me for the next 6-7 hours.

i made it on demand. + i made it make redstone enrgy cells and conduits to. and with the sorting machine i used it will never overflow and just put enough items in their. if you download the map you wil see it's an on demand sytem.[DOUBLEPOST=1369661568][/DOUBLEPOST]

Why is it hard with AE?

EA doesn't know how to do 2 different things to make 1 item. so you need to find an other ay. i did

 

[thomboy90]

Could you provide a quick description of what you did? Some of us are stuck at work with no access to either youtube or Minecraft clients to sate their curiosity

of cource i can. maybe you know that with AE (applied energistics) you can make an auto crafting system. but it can do 2 process to make 1 item. so i made an red power 2 sorting machine to make the 2 proseces do. AE drops the items in an chest and it wil say , i dropped the items where they belong now i will wait till the item is in the system, i automated the prosesses and made it output in the system. + it is on demand and can make redsone energy cell and conduits to

 

[Hydra]

of cource i can. maybe you know that with AE (applied energistics) you can make an auto crafting system. but it can do 2 process to make 1 item. so i made an red power 2 sorting machine to make the 2 proseces do. AE drops the items in an chest and it wil say , i dropped the items where they belong now i will wait till the item is in the system, i automated the prosesses and made it output in the system. + it is on demand and can make redsone energy cell and conduits to

Or you just build 1 crucible and 2 transposers. One for frames, one for conduits, and always keep atleast one filled frame in your inventory with a ME exporter (empty frames set to craft) and a level emitter (that enables either the exporter or transposer). No redpower or sorting machines or whatever needed.

 

[thomboy90]

Or you just build 1 crucible and 2 transposers. One for frames, one for conduits, and always keep atleast one filled frame in your inventory with a ME exporter (empty frames set to craft) and a level emitter (that enables either the exporter or transposer). No redpower or sorting machines or whatever needed.

why would i build 2 if i can do it with 1 transposer

 

[martyyp]

I didn't think it was that hard at all, just always keep a liquid transposer filled with redstone or ender and just tell it one unattuned tesseract = one tesseract frame on an interface on top of the liquid transposer for example. Either that or tell it one unattuned tesseract = 1 tesseract frame + 4 ender pearls and have the interface drop it in relay or something and then filters can put it in the right machine, but that takes longer since it has to melt the pearls

 

[thomboy90]

I didn't think it was that hard at all, just always keep a liquid transposer filled with redstone or ender and just tell it one unattuned tesseract = one tesseract frame on an interface on top of the liquid transposer for example. Either that or tell it one unattuned tesseract = 1 tesseract frame + 4 ender pearls and have the interface drop it in relay or something and then filters can put it in the right machine, but that takes longer since it has to melt the pearls

my system can if you want to make a filled one and you don't have the frame fill the transposer while making the frame so it goes faster

 

[KirinDave]

i made it on demand. + i made it make redstone enrgy cells and conduits to. and with the sorting machine i used it will never overflow and just put enough items in their. if you download the map you wil see it's an on demand sytem.[DOUBLEPOST=1369661568][/DOUBLEPOST]

EA doesn't know how to do 2 different things to make 1 item. so you need to find an other ay. i did

But can't you just teach AE all the intermediate steps? Even then, you just out an ME interface over a pipeline and have it eject the items into a routing inventory...

 

[Hydra]

why would i build 2 if i can do it with 1 transposer

Because you don't need a complex RP system (which you can't even use in 1.5 and probably not in 1.6 either)?

And my way, where it actually keeps a stock of filled frames is faster because if you need one it's instant. In your situation you have to wait for the frame to be filled.

my system can if you want to make a filled one and you don't have the frame fill the transposer while making the frame so it goes faster

No? His idea fills the frame the moment you request one. My idea keeps a stock of filled frames available. Both don't require complex setups with sorters.

 

[thomboy90]

But can't you just teach AE all the intermediate steps? Even then, you just out an ME interface over a pipeline and have it eject the items into a routing inventory...

no because you cann't learn AE the liquid ender/ redstone part. it's made for items only and cann't make the liquids go to the place they need to be. p.s. i will make a video explaining it soon

 

[thomboy90]

But can't you just teach AE all the intermediate steps? Even then, you just out an ME interface over a pipeline and have it eject the items into a routing inventory...

it's the same for making steel from an industerial blast furnace. you cann't do it in one step because it has 2 input slots on different places so you need an step in between

 

[ratchet freak]

you can overcomplicate it by using a second AE network to do the crafting with export buses

 

[thomboy90]

you can overcomplicate it by using a second AE network to do the crafting with export buses

it posible but that was just the things i didn't want do. i wanted to make a system that is easy cheap and every one could make. but i will try it