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Padfoote

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No, that's the thing, the radiation is nil from a fusion reactor in such a event. Fusion Reactors are insanely clean. The radiation comes from the Hydrogen isotopes. Gasses. If they leak, before it reaches the edge of the parking lot, it's below background level radiation.

Ah alright, I was mistaken then. So yes, drop a hungry node in someone's fission reactor. It'll be a nice "present" for them.
 

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Ah alright, I was mistaken then. So yes, drop a hungry node in someone's fission reactor. It'll be a nice "present" for them.
The fusion reactor is a smarter place to drop it if they are smart enough to make the fission reactor safe, and have the concrete set up to defend against the stray particles, though. If it's not a safe reactor(that is, no concrete walls everywhere), then dropping one in there is evil and smart... assuming it's not a basic HTGR reactor, anyway. Those are safe by virtue of not being very radioactive. They get hot, but the fuel isn't very dangerous. And it goes away when thrown in lava, so the fact that the reactor becomes lava if it gets too hot means that a meltdown from a HTGR reactor is safe, but requires replacing the reactor and the fuel.
 
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The fusion reactor is a smarter place to drop it if they are smart enough to make the fission reactor safe, and have the concrete set up to defend against the stray particles, though. If it's not a safe reactor(that is, no concrete walls everywhere), then dropping one in there is evil and smart... assuming it's not a basic HTGR reactor, anyway. Those are safe by virtue of not being very radioactive. They get hot, but the fuel isn't very dangerous. And it goes away when thrown in lava, so the fact that the reactor becomes lava if it gets too hot means that a meltdown from a HTGR reactor is safe, but requires replacing the reactor and the fuel.

Doesn't ammonia get fairly explosive when heated too much? Now I'm interested to see which reactor will deal the most damage when a hungry node is "accidentally" placed nearby.
 

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Doesn't ammonia get fairly explosive when heated too much? Now I'm interested to see which reactor will deal the most damage when a hungry node is "accidentally" placed nearby.
Not much more explosive then a hydrogen explosion in a reactor using water, it's just quicker.
 
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Now, i'm not sure how the reactorcraft fission setups work, but the IC2 and Mekanism setups could both be made to go critical by the removal of a single block.

Then you walk away, whistle innocently and giggle quietly to yourself.

The explosive power of the Mek one wasn't too impressive but the pink fallout was purty :)
 

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Now, i'm not sure how the reactorcraft fission setups work, but the IC2 and Mekanism setups could both be made to go critical by the removal of a single block.

Then you walk away, whistle innocently and giggle quietly to yourself.

The explosive power of the Mek one wasn't too impressive but the pink fallout was purty :)

Wait, Mek has a reactor?
 

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Now, i'm not sure how the reactorcraft fission setups work, but the IC2 and Mekanism setups could both be made to go critical by the removal of a single block.

Then you walk away, whistle innocently and giggle quietly to yourself.

The explosive power of the Mek one wasn't too impressive but the pink fallout was purty :)
No, that's actually quite consistent with reality. IC2 is horrible because it isn't a nuclear reactor, it's a Magic box powered by Green Rocks. Atomic Science is more accurate, and even so, it's an absraction, more realistic then IC2 but that's only because the reactor boils water and makes steam, driving turbines. Ignoring all the other important bits of how a reactor works.
ReactorCraft is the most realistic system in Minecraft currently. As one should expect of a mod being written by a freaking scientist. Props to you for that, @Reika. Show your face, let me throw likes at you!

Still, at least Atomic Science also has the fact that a Fission Reactor is radioactive correct, and also the fact that a fusion reactor can't. Sometimes I like the ReactorCraft ones more. But sometimes the Atomic Science ones feel better. The ReactorCraft fission reactors feel more... right. But the atomic science fusions reactors feel better, as I can chose the shape and form, and thus how effective the reactor is. I love the ReactorCraft fusion reactor, don't get me wrong. But that's because it's all correct. The fuel production, refinement, everything. But if I could run a Atomic Science Fusion Reactor only with ReactorCraft fuel... I'd be so pleased.
 
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I actually kinda like the way the atomic science fission reactor control setup works. A nice simple mechanism with a thermometer and a control rod on a piston.

It's not totally realistic but it's a reasonably involved process.

Unlike the atomic science way of making deuterium for the fusion reactor. A process that IRL needs dedicated extraction and processing facilities can be done with a single machine hooked up to a supply of water and empty glass vials. It's a bit uninvolved and oversimplified for endgame content tbh.
 

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I actually kinda like the way the atomic science fission reactor control setup works. A nice simple mechanism with a thermometer and a control rod on a piston.

It's not totally realistic but it's a reasonably involved process.

Unlike the atomic science way of making deuterium for the fusion reactor. A process that IRL needs dedicated extraction and processing facilities can be done with a single machine hooked up to a supply of water and empty glass vials. It's a bit uninvolved and oversimplified for endgame content tbh.
Hence why I want to run one via ReactorCraft fuel. Aside from the oversimplified fuel production, I prefer that fusion reactor. Less risky? Sure. Less complicated? True. Can build it the shape I want it in and don't need to worry about placing the correct version of 15 similar types of blocks in the right place every place in a multiblock composed of thousands of blocks? Ohgodyes.
 

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I cut the IC2 dev teams description of it saying it's a "nuclear reactor" down to that using Occam's Razor.
I always likened it to comic books and movies than anything else:
  • Green Uranium: Check
  • Direct Electricity Generation: Check
  • Massive (nuke-scale) explosion on slightest failure: Check
  • Geiger-counter-style clicking even under normal operation: Check
  • Raw uranium fuel: Check
  • Instant startup and shutdown: Check
  • Ambient radiation effects: Check
  • Insanely low power output: Check
  • Popularity to be used as a standard example of nuclear energy by the ill-informed: Checkcheckcheckcheckcheck
 

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I always likened it to comic books and movies than anything else:
  • Green Uranium: Check
  • Direct Electricity Generation: Check
  • Massive (nuke-scale) explosion on slightest failure: Check
  • Geiger-counter-style clicking even under normal operation: Check
  • Raw uranium fuel: Check
  • Instant startup and shutdown: Check
  • Ambient radiation effects: Check
  • Insanely low power output: Check
  • Popularity to be used as a standard example of nuclear energy by the ill-informed: Checkcheckcheckcheckcheck
The sad truth, my friend. This is also why people are afraid of them in real life, because the ill-informed seem to vastly outnumber the well-informed on this topic.
 

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I always likened it to comic books and movies than anything else:
  • Green Uranium: Check
  • Direct Electricity Generation: Check
  • Massive (nuke-scale) explosion on slightest failure: Check
  • Geiger-counter-style clicking even under normal operation: Check
  • Raw uranium fuel: Check
  • Instant startup and shutdown: Check
  • Ambient radiation effects: Check
  • Insanely low power output: Check
  • Popularity to be used as a standard example of nuclear energy by the ill-informed: Checkcheckcheckcheckcheck

Hmm I don't know, don't you have to "enrich" the ore now before you can make it in to a cell? Not that it matters anyway.


(Edit: Quote fail)
 

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The sad truth, my friend. This is also why people are afraid of them in real life, because the ill-informed seem to vastly outnumber the well-informed on this topic.
Such is the case on any topic you care to name. ...Especially topics that matter; get 50 people in a room and they will agree about what a celebrity had for breakfast or what the best quote from some movie is, but then ask them something like "should high-schoolers be made to learn math" and weep.
 

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Such is the case on any topic you care to name. ...Especially topics that matter; get 50 people in a room and they will agree about what a celebrity had for breakfast or what the best quote from some movie is, but then ask them something like "should high-schoolers be made to learn math" and weep.

To be fair 90% of people will agree that kids should learn math, regardless of their own level of proficiency. A lot of people claim to hate math but most begrudgingly agree that it's important for at least some people to be proficient in it.

Also on the nuclear front I live in Australia which is rich in uranium yet we have a government and society that is equally terrified of nuclear power. Which is funny as those same people will whine about their power bill being so high, power based on fossil fuels.
My country could seek to gain a lot from being less mental in regards to nuke reactors but people always think Chernoble will happen if they let up just a little bit.

I was actually at a family gathering spouting about how dangerous uranium/ radiation is. I explained that the alpha particles emitted from raw uranium barely penetrate your skin and that you'd die from heavy metal poisoning before a radiation induced illness if you ingested it, suffice to say I was greeted with blank looks.
I also explained how radiation isn't as dangerous as people think it is (still dangerous though) taking note to say that taking a mere plane trip was 30 times background radiation (Knowing he just came back from an overseas trip). He also didn't know just how radioactive the Earth it's self actually is, or the radiation it's perpetually bombarded with from space.
 

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To be fair 90% of people will agree that kids should learn math, regardless of their own level of proficiency. A lot of people claim to hate math but most begrudgingly agree that it's important for at least some people to be proficient in it.

Also on the nuclear front I live in Australia which is rich in uranium yet we have a government and society that is equally terrified of nuclear power. Which is funny as those same people will whine about their power bill being so high, power based on fossil fuels.
My country could seek to gain a lot from being less mental in regards to nuke reactors but people always think Chernoble will happen if they let up just a little bit.

I was actually at a family gathering spouting about how dangerous uranium/ radiation is. I explained that the alpha particles emitted from raw uranium barely penetrate your skin and that you'd die from heavy metal poisoning before a radiation induced illness if you ingested it, suffice to say I was greeted with blank looks.
I also explained how radiation isn't as dangerous as people think it is (still dangerous though) taking note to say that taking a mere plane trip was 30 times background radiation (Knowing he just came back from an overseas trip). He also didn't know just how radioactive the Earth it's self actually is, or the radiation it's perpetually bombarded with from space.
Yeah, hence the whole "uninformed masses being easily spoon-fed bullshit that anyone who knows even 1% of the topic won't accept the bullshit" issue. People are stupid, and refuse to learn, and so the leaders tell their herd what to believe and the herd believes it. The public knowledge of Nuclear Power is so ass-backwards that Greenpeace can lie about anything related to nuclear power in any way that doesn't say it's safer then it is, and the masses will gorge themselves on the bullshit.