Assistance with an Automated Boiler.

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Minosha

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/edit -- oh, side question on solid firebox fuel... with my boilers up to full heat, do you guys see any reason I should be converting logs to charcoal? I am thinking I should be able to pipe logs directly to my fireboxes and just eliminate the charcoal conversion at this point. What do you think?

I run 2 solids on planks and I'm slowly generating extra logs. Logs and planks give the same heat, so as a pure guess based on the output of my SC tree farm (16x16 E shape) I'd say no. It would triple my log usage to run just one solid boiler; I don't think I'm producing excess fast enough for that. But with a larger tree farm, it would become feasible but not ideal.
 

AlanEsh

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I run 2 solids on planks and I'm slowly generating extra logs. Logs and planks give the same heat, so as a pure guess based on the output of my SC tree farm (16x16 E shape) I'd say no. It would triple my log usage to run just one solid boiler; I don't think I'm producing excess fast enough for that. But with a larger tree farm, it would become feasible but not ideal.
my tree farm is massive. But you're saying if i sawmill the logs i will get 5(?) planks, each of which will provide as much heat as a single log?
 

Minosha

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my tree farm is massive. But you're saying if i sawmill the logs i will get 5(?) planks, each of which will provide as much heat as a single log?

If you sawmill them, you will get 6 planks, each of which will provide as much heat as a single log. Collectively, more than 1 piece of charcoal as well.
 
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abculatter_2

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If you sawmill them, you will get 6 planks, each of which will provide as much heat as a single log. Collectively, more than 1 piece of charcoal as well.
If you do not compress the sawdust and burn it directly, you get 1900 heat value. Not burning the saw dust at all gives you 1800, and compressing the sawdust into wooden plates will give you 2000.
Compare to 1600 if you simply burn the logs into charcoal.
 

MilConDoin

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Configure GregTech to let the TE sawmill produce TE sawdust, then you can get extra heat from the sawdust->compressed sawdust->charcoal without adding an EU using machine to a MJ powergrid.
 

abculatter_2

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Configure GregTech to let the TE sawmill produce TE sawdust, then you can get extra heat from the sawdust->compressed sawdust->charcoal without adding an EU using machine to a MJ powergrid.
Which, it should be added, will not change the energy you get out of the stuff, but as he said will make things easier if you're making an MJ powergrid rather then an EU one.
 

AlanEsh

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I'm just burning the planks and the sawdust directly out of the sawmill -- gold pipes with gates are feeding these fuels to two boilers, and it seems to be keeping up. Enjoying the increased efficiency!
 

AlanEsh

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I'm just burning the planks and the sawdust directly out of the sawmill -- gold pipes with gates are feeding these fuels to two boilers, and it seems to be keeping up. Enjoying the increased efficiency!
So this can't keep up after last FTB update. I converted one of my boilers to liquid -- giving up on one SC tree farm auto-fueling two boilers.
 

Minosha

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So this can't keep up after last FTB update. I converted one of my boilers to liquid -- giving up on one SC tree farm auto-fueling two boilers.

I have a 16x16 SC Tree Farm running two boilers on planks alone still, with no issue. My problem after the latest update is I seem to be getting less Saplings, and my biofuel production is having trouble keeping up with 4 liquid boilers. I've had to tap into my reserve sapling barrel for now.
 

AlanEsh

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Well that's really strange and I'm at a loss then. I went from a very slight surplus of logs to losing 75 stacks per day last update.

My setup is gate+filter fed, I compress the sawdust and burn those plates as well. The compressor burns saplings in a generator for power, and the Hobbyist Steam Engine that powers my sawmill is fed by my LP boiler. Everything is self-contained and looks about as efficient as it can be made. Dunno.
 

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So this can't keep up after last FTB update. I converted one of my boilers to liquid -- giving up on one SC tree farm auto-fueling two boilers.

Like I said in the other topic: this seems to be an issue with your setup and not an issue with SC in general. Mine is running just fine.
 

Minosha

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I don't use a gate system, I have two sawmills with two hoppers on each, hoppers fed by filter. The sawmill's into a double wooden chest, which the boilers pull directly from. I void the sawdust at the moment.
 

Omicron

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Railcraft didn't make any changes to the fuel value of planks or the consumption of steam boilers (except for the hobbyist engine). If anything changed, it would have to be sought on the side of Steve's Carts...
 

AlanEsh

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Like I said in the other topic: this seems to be an issue with your setup and not an issue with SC in general. Mine is running just fine.
In the other topic you said you have a single boiler. My single boiler setups works fine too, I am talking about feeding dual boilers from one farm and one sawmill.
I don't use a gate system, I have two sawmills with two hoppers on each, hoppers fed by filter. The sawmill's into a double wooden chest, which the boilers pull directly from. I void the sawdust at the moment.
How do your boilers pull from the chest? My sawmill is keeping up fine, the plank supply chest is always full. My boilers were triggering Filters to pull full stacks of planks when inventory = empty. The tubes were 3 blocks long so very little travel time.
 

Minosha

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Boilers will pull from an adjacent inventory. Just stick the chest right next to the fuel box.
 

Hydra

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In the other topic you said you have a single boiler. My single boiler setups works fine too, I am talking about feeding dual boilers from one farm and one sawmill.

Yes, a LP and a HP right? And you said you were going to convert your HP to liquid. I'm saying that my farm keeps up with a single HP without issues and that I have a lot of charcoal to spare. You're using planks and that's even a bit more efficient.

I'm not trying to prove you wrong, just showing what works for me.
 

Edrosty

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Watch Generikb's videos and him monkeying around with Steam Boilers and you should be able to get a good idea on how to run one.
 

AlanEsh

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Yes, a LP and a HP right? And you said you were going to convert your HP to liquid. I'm saying that my farm keeps up with a single HP without issues and that I have a lot of charcoal to spare. You're using planks and that's even a bit more efficient.
My choice of sticking with the LP for solid fuel was purely because the fueling system is right next to that boiler -- I would have left solid fueling on the HP and replaced the LP with a new liquid HP if things were laid out better for that choice. Thanks for your feedback, wasn't trying to shut you down. :)
Watch Generikb's videos and him monkeying around with Steam Boilers and you should be able to get a good idea on how to run one.
lol?
Sorry, but I've been running boilers for a while -- the only problem I'm having cropped up very recently and when I tried to (perhaps) over-extend my dual boiler+single sawmill setup. If your man has a video specifically on that I'll have a look.
 

AlanEsh

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OK I think I figured this out... my world anchors were keeping my factory loaded but not my entire SC tree farm. Duh? I have dual LP boilers running off one sawmill now, compressing sawdust and burning that too; the log supply seems to be keeping up. Perhaps this should go in the Epic Fails thread...