Applied Energistics Or Logistics Pipes?

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ThatOneSlowking

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Sorry for the Off Topic here, but your thread, review and list were very inaccurate, and obviously not based on actually playing or knowing even the slightest about AE2. It was based off one part of a three part spotlight. As an example your "Irredeemably Godawful" was based off purely false information in which you stated you get circuits from world gen rather than craft them. Which is not true, you get the press from world gen (of which is very common and in minecraft infinite) and the press can make as many circuits as you want. No durability. Regarding it not adding anything, again, you clearly haven't played it yet. It already adds a ton of new stuff and many features aren't even in yet (it is alpha and autocrafting hasn't even been put back in yet! lol) It really saddens me that people like you don't realize how insulting it is to Algo (and why he wants to nuke AE) when people post wildly inaccurate reviews of a mod he spent 5 months making having not played it at all and only seen a small part of a spotlight.
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KingTriaxx

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Like giving us the same press four times in a row... :p

I really do like AE. And it kind of frustrates me to see that some people not only don't like it, but don't want to stop complaining that they don't like it.
 
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Draakon

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Autocrafting is very powerful, especially with satellite pipes, sneaky pipes and so forth. However a large autocrafting farm with logistics pipes will require a LOT of machines. For example if you want to have two things auto crafted in a furnace, you will need two furnaces connected to two separate crafting pipes. The ME Interface of AE though, can use one machine to craft nearly a dozen separate recipes.

I use a single furnace all the time (but its from Mekanism) with no problems. The trick is having to have a buffer of your choice between the furnace and the satellite pipe and output goes directly to an buffer chest too where the crafting pipe itself is connected. You can have up to 5 recipes attached to a single furnace because of this (more is possible).
 
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YX33A

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~Snip~As an example your "Irredeemably Godawful" was based off purely false information in which you stated you get circuits from world gen rather than craft them. Which is not true, you get the press from world gen (of which is very common and in minecraft infinite)~Snip~
So we don't get them from world-gen, we get the tool we need to make them from world gen. This is slightly different, I guess. One of which means we have people on servers fighting constantly for a needed part for a AE network, and the other means we have people on servers fighting constantly for the only thing that can make those things that make those needed parts for a AE network.

So what if they are common? So what if the world is massive enough that it's basically infinite? SMP is a thing; Everyone starts at one place, and everyone will want those presses, so those who show up later have to go farther and farther from spawn to find any, and on a server, this is bad. Scratch that, it's horrible bordering on malicious.

So what if there is a community workshop? Everyone will want one(or more) in the end.

It works great in SSP, where the world is only as small as your computer can store. In SMP, it's a totally different story. And that is why I take offense to the merest idea that AE2 has circuits which are needed for anything as worldgen. Oh, sorry, a press that makes those circuits, my bad. Same thing in the end, really, just decreases the scale of the issue a tiny bit in SMP.
 

KingTriaxx

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Considering AE2 is still in early alpha, I wouldn't be surprised if Algo adds the ability to duplicate the presses. It would make them simple to find and duplicate and anyone can have a copy. But seriously, as massive as this mod is, give him a little time to work. Nothing works perfectly the first time, which is why they go through stages of development.
 

Not_Steve

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Considering AE2 is still in early alpha, I wouldn't be surprised if Algo adds the ability to duplicate the presses. It would make them simple to find and duplicate and anyone can have a copy. But seriously, as massive as this mod is, give him a little time to work. Nothing works perfectly the first time, which is why they go through stages of development.
http://ae2.ae-mod.info/Inscriber-Calculation-Press/
Plates can be copied, in a machine called an inscriber
 

KingTriaxx

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Didn't see that. And since I'm SSP, I wouldn't have thought of trying that. There, see Algo thinks of everything. The only place it would be a problem is in a PvP server, like what the Mindcrackers are up to.
 

YX33A

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Didn't see that. And since I'm SSP, I wouldn't have thought of trying that. There, see Algo thinks of everything. The only place it would be a problem is in a PvP server, like what the Mindcrackers are up to.
If I understand correctly, this means one could infiltrate a base, copy those plates, and leave... or something somewhat less complicated if you're not on a PvP server.
 

Azzanine

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LP is more fun but AE outperforms LP, which is kind of why LP is more "funner".

But TBH it's like asking what's better for eating ice-cream a teaspoon or a tablespoon... People who like large mouthfuls will say table those that don't will say tea, some other smartasses will say fuck both I use an icecream scoop and I eat directly from the tub. The truly smart people however will ask "WTF are we talking about fucking spoons for? just eat the damn gelato sheesh!".

To me LP and AE are both means to an end and ergo not fun. They make things better and smoother but I don't derive any direct joy from either mod, just satisfaction when they work. While fun is satisfying satisfaction is not fun in it's self.

The only reason I said LP was the more "funner" out of the two is that with LP you can watch the sparkles and items wizz about while ME's just sit there being useful.
 
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Mevansuto

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LP is more fun but AE outperforms LP, which is kind of why LP is more "funner".

But TBH it's like asking what's better for eating ice-cream a teaspoon or a tablespoon... People who like large mouthfuls will say table those that don't will say tea, some other smartasses will say fuck both I use an icecream scoop and I eat directly from the tub. The truly smart people however will ask "WTF are we talking about fucking spoons for? just eat the damn gelato sheesh!".

To me LP and AE are both means to an end and ergo not fun. They make things better and smoother but I don't derive any direct joy from either mod, just satisfaction when they work. While fun is satisfying satisfaction is not fun in it's self.

The only reason I said LP was the more "funner" out of the two is that with LP you can watch the sparkles and items wizz about while ME's just sit
there being useful.

That was a pretty great analogy.