Actually I think I tried that at some stage and it didn't work. It's been some time so it might be fixed now or it might work as soon as the bioreactor is saturated. I'm mostly using it atm to "void" seeds in a useful way so it's running far from optimal and with this setup at that time EU pipes did not work.
Applied Energistics and Logistic pipes comparission opinions.
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I've never used those but I assume they are wireless and that statement just made me want to use logistics pipes on my new world instead of AE, never thought of that
No, they attach to the side of a machine(well, kinda, but they are literal pipes and thus have to attach to something in the end).
AE is cool for the server room feels, LP is cool for watching your stuff get built as pipes chuck stuff every which way.
Which is less laggy? Dunno, I use 'em both sparingly anyway. LP is known to be heavier on the client due to visible items in pipes, which can get pretty bad if you have enough going at once.
Less Bugs? Uh, ask a coder?
More Storage per block? AE automatically wins as LP doesn't have a way to store items, it relies on other storage devices, like AE or Deep Storage Units, which if you count that as a part of LP, then LP has more storage per block due to deep storage units being great for holding my junk. Horrible for letting me know what's in what at a glance, though.
Which would I use for my actual autocrafting room? Steve's Factory Manager of course! Having uses LP in ages, and I'm rusty as shit with it's stuff. Wouldn't use AE for autocrafting much due to all the thousands of Cetrus Quartz I would need to get started.
But a bunch of flowcharts controlling how my autocrafting works? Yes Please.
That being said, I would likely use all three in unison for the whole "Oh shit, broke my pickaxe, better get another while thousands of blocks away from home!". I'd use my remote Orderer to order a new pickaxe, which would pull stuff from my AE storage to make using Steve's Factory Manager, then it would pipe through my LP network into my waiting Ender Chest and I'd pull it out of my pouch and keep mining.
Does anyone know of a way in Logistics Pipes of handling items with damage values, similar to how AE fuzzy buses work? For example, an Item Sink type of module/pipe for accepting all bows (undamaged, damaged and enchanted). I recently set up a Cursed Earth / Drawbridge mob farm and am swimming in mob drops I'm having trouble sorting with my LP system.
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Yes, I've seen this: when people do stupid things life infinite loops, like TE's conduits having 2000 items on it's buffer. Any server will crash like this. I'm running over 400 machines with LP with 30ms to tick my world. The client lag though is incredible, but prolly is not due to LP, it's spiking and I don't know what it is.
I still don't know how to deal with this. I solved this by placing an AE System on the default route of my LP system =]
For now, I settled on using TE itemducts on my default route chest set up with a whitelist, ignore NBT/Metadata going to a wall of filing cabinets. It works, but I'd prefer an LP solution. I've been trying to avoid AE on this world just because I've overused it so much in the past ... looking for something different this playthrough.
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Just a personal thing, but LP looks way too complicated... way more complicated than AE and more expensive to setup. I do see an immediate advantage for LP and that is the trick that wireless recall of your full stockaded inventory and ender pouch from anywhere basically sitting on the AE wireless interface and farting on its face... but the setup for that goes back to the reason previously mention why I don't like it.
LP!? MORE EXPENSIVE? AAAAAAAAAAARGH.
Do you see any of that rare quartz around here? Or constant running costs when nothing is happening? LP is way cheaper than AE
I don't know what to tell you. In the DW20 pack find enough to make my storage box or boxes and my wireless interface. Then the quarry gets me whatever I need there after. I'm currently going though Magic Farm and after I fortune 3 something, and with what I'm seeing as far as ores go, I don't ever see quartz being a problem. LP takes power. the amount of power needed by AE is like one dynamo at minimal and like 3 or 4 at something very robust. Direwolf spent 5 youtubes trying to get even the smallest LP system up that would have taken him 1 youtube to setup an AE network.
I don't know what kind of LP system you are using, but I could easily power 20-30 LP pipes on a single Dynamo. Besides, AE drains massive amounts of power just to sit still and do nothing, while LP only takes power when it needs too, and very small amounts.
AE is very good for storage and easy, fast access to your entire inventory, and the crafting terminal is an excellent tool to have with that in mind. AE autocrafting has its good points too. However, it is not very good at sorting things and moving stuff around. It is not easy to use AE to regulate external inventories and it is bad at servicing machines (imho, import and export busses are the most overrated blocks in the game. They are dumb and power hungry.)
But AE doesn't need to really good at these things because it has excellent support with other mods, significantly logistics pipes. LP brings the following things to an ME network.
- Remote requesting from anywhere in the world (using an ender chest/pouch)
- Easier syncing of remote logistics systems via tesseracts or ender chests
- Cheaper importing and exporting (especially in terms of power).
- Supplier pipes allow a more sophisticated demand based exporting if you need it. An improvement over export busses which just export all the things
- What is the point of using a bus to import all your raw ores (expensively) only to immediately export them to your ore processing, only to reimport all the finished ingots? Logistics pipes is a great way of handling these sorts of processing jobs before things even arrive in your ME system. (Sorry for coming across a bit aggressive there, the point of using just AE to do this is is because you like it and find it fun, in which case, cool. But LP is a great alternative).
- LP autocrafting is cheaper to start up than a MAC (particularly good for those first few recipes).
- You can end up with a grand network that is more powerful that a pure ME system of similar scope while costing much less power to maintain.
- Machine servicing can be more compact with chassis pipes in some situations
If it had to be one way and not the other I am glad that AE can at least see LP crafting. I prefer the access/crafting terminal inteface to the logistics pipes equivalents.
The wireless orderer in applied energistics only allows you to transfer items between your own inventory and your AE network. The remote orderer from logistics pipes, when connected to a remote request pipe (may have a slightly different name) will put requests in the inventory next to that pipe. It can pull out of AE networks to fulfill this request if there is a provider pipe an an ME interface