It's unintentional, and will be removed in future versions of Soul Shards. Same with enchantable IC2 tools. Basically, the anvil mechanics were not fully considered by the mod authors, so this capability snuck by them.
And so I'm making a Galgadorian Drill...
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Is that sarcasm? The galgadorian drill isn't faster than any frame machine I've built, at least not in the version included with DW20. It goes roughly quarry speed.
Frame bore digs an entire layer every ~4 seconds and can do much, much larger than 9x9.
I built a mining cart for the same reason the OP did, mainly because it was something different to try. The only situation I've found where it is "better" than my other options is for clearing the 2nd level of minotaur maze.
Look like newer versions of steve's carts add a lot of functionality so that it will be first pick in some other situations.
The galg drill goes much faster than any quarry I've ever run, and I ran it on a server where the tick rate was lower. I suppose if you build a stupid-large frame machine and crush your server's tickrate you could go faster, so I stand corrected. I've built 5x5 frame machines and the galg drill cleared more blocks per second than that thing did. I'm certain of this because I tested that using computercraft as a counter.
I have never seen a larger frame machine than that because I tend to play multiplayer worlds, and building huge frame machines is an excellent way to get banned. There is a reason no one is leaping to make an independent copy of the Frames code in 1.5.*: the minecraft engine doesn't do that sort of work well and basically every mod author had to constantly and carefully deal with that problem.
Even a 5x5 frame would go faster than my galgadorian drill minecart. 4 seconds is 4 seconds and the minecart doesn't come close to clearing an entire 9x9 section in 4 seconds. Is the speed variable? I had one of the large combustion engines in mine. Guess something is/was broken on our server because the minecart was slower than a 75MJ quarry and much, much slower than a frame bore digging the same size tunnel.
Not much point in bringing frame lag into the discussion. If the minecart could mine as quickly it too would be generating lag. A 9x9 frame isn't really that big of a deal in terms of lag from moving blocks. If a server can't handle a few of those then it probably shouldn't be used as a server in the first place.
On top of that the minecart requires more care and feeding than any other "automated" mining solution I've used. One xycraft crystal pointing the wrong way and the minecraft is stymied. Constant degradation in speed due to length of track. Behaviour when near full causing it to leave speed bumps in the tunnel.
I wanted the minecart to be "worth it", I really did. It wasn't. It isn't in the latest dw20 version.
Not much point in bringing frame lag into the discussion. If the minecart could mine as quickly it too would be generating lag. A 9x9 frame isn't really that big of a deal in terms of lag from moving blocks. If a server can't handle a few of those then it probably shouldn't be used as a server in the first place.
On top of that the minecart requires more care and feeding than any other "automated" mining solution I've used. One xycraft crystal pointing the wrong way and the minecraft is stymied. Constant degradation in speed due to length of track. Behaviour when near full causing it to leave speed bumps in the tunnel.
I wanted the minecart to be "worth it", I really did. It wasn't. It isn't in the latest dw20 version.
I'm not sure how you're measuring speed. Are you saying, "Forwards progress" or "blocks per second?"
In terms of an equivalent quarry: no way. Not as fast. And let's pretend for a sec that it was: that'd still be a lose for the quarry in a bunch of different ways: sustaining that huge power output is expensive whereas the SC2 miner is frightfully efficient.
In terms of a frame bore, probably not? In any event, frame bores are dead.
In terms of blocks mined. It is slower than a fully-powered quarry and much slower than a frame machine on the current version of dw20. You can keep saying it isn't, I'll keep saying it is. I tested it about a month ago, which version did you test on? On top of that the further the minecart digs the slower it gets overall due to time wasted in transit and unloading---and that is another problem with the carts, the cargo manager unloads the cart very, very slowly, whereas the competition unloads itself as it digs.
Frame bores aren't dead, lol. Don't know why you keep bringing that up. Last I checked frame machines were alive and well on dw20. If you want to hold this discussion in the context of 1.5x or 1.6x perhaps you should start a thread for that? This thread is in a general FTB forum and most of the FTB modpacks---indeed perhaps all of those that have Steve's Carts---are 1.4.7 and also have RedPower2.
Oh and here is the cart I used(fueled with coal coke). Is there something missing that makes it go faster?
Did anyone else read BTW as BTW and not BTW and nearly faint from shock as this meant BTW compatibility with Soulshards, and thus Forge?
I didn't, but I was paying close attention. If I just scan through pages I sometimes see BTW and think Better Then Wolves. Mind you, I know enough to dismiss that thought when I see it in a way that might imply BTW is compatible with forge, or will be.
In terms of blocks mined. It is slower than a fully-powered quarry and much slower than a frame machine on the current version of dw20. You can keep saying it isn't, I'll keep saying it is. I tested it about a month ago, which version did you test on? On top of that the further the minecart digs the slower it gets overall due to time wasted in transit and unloading---and that is another problem with the carts, the cargo manager unloads the cart very, very slowly, whereas the competition unloads itself as it digs.
Frame bores aren't dead, lol. Don't know why you keep bringing that up. Last I checked frame machines were alive and well on dw20. If you want to hold this discussion in the context of 1.5x or 1.6x perhaps you should start a thread for that? This thread is in a general FTB forum and most of the FTB modpacks---indeed perhaps all of those that have Steve's Carts---are 1.4.7 and also have RedPower2.
Oh and here is the cart I used(fueled with coal coke). Is there something missing that makes it go faster?
You must be losing your mind. A galgadorian drill mines 20 blocks a second. Rather one block per tick. It is not possible for a quarry to come anywhere close to that. In the 4 seconds you specified for a frame quarry it would take exactly a 9x9 to match the speed of a galgdorian as it mines 81 blocks(1 forward movement) in 4.05 seconds with 20tps.
And note that the big frame machines are pretty rough on TPS. The bigger, the rougher. They are also totally unavailable on current versions of Minecraft that have been out for months now.