AE - Autosmelter

[LukeWUK]

Hey guys for my AE auto-smelter setup, I want it to be like instant.

I made a bank of 32 furnaces....

Whats the best thing for an interface to connect to to equally distribute the items? I tried router but its too slow or I dont know the best way to set it up :S.. Dumping the "To be smelted" stuff in a hopper above it.. and it slowly (like 1/2 item / sec) distributes them as required.... with speed upgrade. It takes far too long to distribute a whole stack! If I use bandwidth then 1 furnace works and 31 sit idle.

I want it so if I ask for a stack of stone, 2 stone goes in each furnace and the job is finished like 8 seconds later.

Please help! Ultimate 1.4.7 latest

 

[Loufmier]

have you thought about using Speed upgrade for router?

 

[LukeWUK]

Yep already mentioned .. I wanna try and upscale it to like 64 upgraded electric furnaces eventually lol.

 

[Loufmier]

Yep already mentioned .. I wanna try and upscale it to like 64 upgraded electric furnaces eventually lol.

didnt expect to miss that....
anyway i find it hard to believe that mere 32 inventories can be tough for upgraded router. i had a setup with about 100 inventories and they`ve been filling fast.
it seems to more like AE`s output issue than router`s slowness.

 

[PierceSG]

ME Interface attached to a chest, attach ExtraUtilities' Item Transfer Node with 19 Speed Upgrade in it which feeds into a Factorization's Router with Machine Filter and Speed upgrade that in turn feeds your furnaces.

 

[KingTriaxx]

Don't use interfaces for this. Use an export bus set to stack mode. It'll dump a full stack into the router.

Personally I just use steam ovens and export buses. They're a little slower, but they do so much that it's worth it.

 

[PierceSG]

The ME interface is for on-demand autocrafting. IIRC, export buses can't handle on-demand requests, right? They just keep exporting?

 

[KingTriaxx]

True. I misread the first post. I thought he was looking to smelt the results of grinding.

I think the problem is that Bandwidth moves stacks at a time, so you end up with just that one furnace working. Frankly, unless you need it NOW, I'd just go with one induction furnace. It'll probably outrun a huge bank anyway.

 

[LukeWUK]

yeah I sorta wanted it NOW.... but think I will revise my plans :S I just wanted to have an instant furnace system that can handle anything (i.e 64 induction furnaces)

Hard to distribute the items into the machines fast + evenly

 

[InsaneJ]

If you want things "NOW" then you need to keep them in stock. There's an easy way to do with with the redstone level emitters from Applied Energistics. Set them to emit a signal if the amount of items drops below a certain value, say 512. Then have another one set to emit a signal if the amount of items goes above a certain value, say 1024. Have the emitter connected to a redstone RS latch which is connected to an EU splitter cable which can turn on/off the power to your machines. Then just keep your machines filled with ME export busses, they should round-robin. Once this system has reached 1024 it will turn off until your stock drops below 512, then it will turn back on again. Easy

I made a video explaining how to do this here:

 

[LukeWUK]

Yeah thanks for your reply thats what I currently have setup , I have too many level emitters taking up lots of space... plus theres always something I need which I didnt conceive off first so I came up with this plan to make a:

me interface --> Chest --> Mass PRocessing System (i.e 64 furnaces, 20 macerators etc)

And then work on making my systems ridiculously fast. Through mass paralellisation in general plus overclockers etc. So If i request anything its made like 10 seconds later or so <3

Just havent been able to work out a decent fast (<2 secs to distribute from chest evenly into machines) mass paralellisation system.

Im a coder (not mc mods) and my existing setup feels sort of like im writing a bunch of "exceptions" to catch specific things... wheres I want it to run for any given request... if you get my drift

I dont think routers will work.. with just a few furnaces connected it takes 10 seconds to distrirbute 1 stack of stuff placed into the router itself. (Router in pic has just speed boost upgrade) ..


for now I will just use a reduced amount of induction furnaces and bandwidth mode .. but I sorta wanted to spread the load amongst the induction furnaces for MAJOR SPEED but I cant distribute to em fast enough

 

[InsaneJ]

One router with speed boost, bandwidth upgrade and a machine filter should easily keep up with those furnaces.

But if for some reason it can't (maybe they changed the router since I last used it), then you can always use more then 1 router with the mentioned upgrades. I had a setup with 4 routers filling an array of aqueous accumulators, and then 4 routers emptying them. I think it could manage up to about 40 water cells per second if I recall correctly.

You are right though, this isn't a very elegant way to do this. On our server Dom wrote a ComputerCraft program to keep items in stock. Basically you program a crafting recipe in the ME system like you'd normally would, and then the program could use that to simply place an order for items. It's a little (much) harder to setup, but if you're a coder then LUA shouldn't be a problem for you

 

[LukeWUK]

Lol yeah the system works quite fast as it is im just fussy.

The difference being... I can smelt an item in 0.65 secs in a furnace... therefore ... If I request a stack of stone... I figure it should take approximately 0.65 secs to smelt across my bank of machines With bandwidth upgrade I have to accept 0.65 * 64 = 40 seconds!

EDIT - Theres plenty of stuff to do... I will change my mentaility and go fighting or stuff instead whuilst things are processed <3

 

[PierceSG]

Skip the bandwidth upgrade, just the speed upgrade with the machine filter upgrade will do. By skipping the bandwidth upgrade, the router will do It's best to spread out the work load. But with the bandwidth upgrade, it will dump stacks into one before moving on. E.g. 64 induction furnaces, if you ate only processing say 10 stacks, with the bandwidth upgrade, only 10 furnaces will be working with full stacks in them. Without the upgrade, all 10 stacks will be distributed to all 64 furnaces and therefore processed faster overall.

 

[LukeWUK]

But it takes so much longer than 0.65 secs

 

[twisto51]

I wonder if you put an item tesseract on top of each furnace and set them all to the same frequency if they'd round-robin?

 

[LukeWUK]

Nice idea! Not that rich just yet but will test soon