A Reason to hate Bee's and/or Pipes

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DZCreeper

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I had just gotten 2 imperial bee's and 2 industrious bee's. All 4 were pure breed, I was so damn happy, I was ready to start working on an alveary. I made a simple auto breeder to get me lots of pollen and royal jelly. There was a gate attached to each that powered a lamp when the frames ran out. Today I hopped on the server and noticed lots of jelly, but no pollen. I went to check my industrious bee's, only to find they had transformed into pure imperial bee's! This was a result of the industrial bee apiary emptying at the same time as the imperial apiary. An extra imperial drone made its way into the wrong apiary, likely more than once, instead of continuing to my bee sorting area where they would be turned into liquid dna. This means I have to work my way back up to a set of Industrious Bee's, which took me several real life hours to get, even with a guide, due mainly to bad luck.
 

snooder

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That seems more like poor design on your system. Next time just have a separate line for each species you want to breed.

Also, you'll want to make sure that you don't have a redstone signal near any iron pipes. I lost a few diamond combs earlier when the iron pipe that collects from the alveary they were in flipped. I had a gate power a lamp whenever the alveary didn't have a queen to let me know which ones were active. But it was too close to the pipe and every time the queen got pumped out, the pipe would flip and spew drones and combs everywhere. Quite embarrassing when I figured it out.
 

Maldroth

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If you have any Industrial drones left from your last breedings you might be able to make a new princess with those.
 

DZCreeper

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I know, I am about to login, really should have not been so stupid and spent more time configuring my pipes, but its moot at this point, I got enough stuff setup that I should be able to remake my bee's with a day or two.
 

DZCreeper

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Just did exactly that, I had enough drones luckily to make a serum for Industrious Bee's, which I applied to a Modest Princess. I then used Rocky Bee's to get Flyer and Nocturnal, so the only trait left that I want is Fastest or Fast production. Which bee's can I use to get that trait from? Also, I can't seem to find any info on how to get Pure Bee's aka the ones that remove flux. Rural Bee's seem easy enough, just combine Meadows and Cultivated in a Plains biome correct?

Edit: I had 1 cultivated drone, which had the fast trait. I managed to get the serum, but it destroyed the bee. Still looking for fastest, but it appears not a single bee has it that I have discovered.
 

Maldroth

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Fastest is on the Aura Bee from Thaumic Bees. Also that bee has a larger Territory if you are interested in enlarging bees that have positive effects.
 

DoctorOr

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Also, I can't seem to find any info on how to get Pure Bee's aka the ones that remove flux.

Vis+Edenic near a pure node during the right phase of the in game moon.

(If your next question is how to get vis or edenic, you need to refer to one of the many websites, like FTB's wiki)
 

DZCreeper

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The rest seems easy enough, I just need to get a small pure node using a few silverwood saplings. Edenic and Vis bee's are easy enough now that I have equipment to extract species from bee's. Right moon phase however is going to be a pain, anyone got a hint?
 

tehBlobLord

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Not sure how you can blame anyone but yourself for this...
Also, it's Bees with no apostrophe.
The apostrophe-s means "is".
So it's = it is, bee's = bee is
You meant to say Bees, because in the english language, when you put an S on the end of something it becomes plural. This is something you should learn around the age of 7.
Yes, I am trying to be condescending.
I assume that english is your mother tongue, if it isn't then you are forgiven :p
 

Beleriond01

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Not sure how you can blame anyone but yourself for this...
Also, it's Bees with no apostrophe.
The apostrophe-s means "is".
So it's = it is, bee's = bee is
You meant to say Bees, because in the english language, when you put an S on the end of something it becomes plural. This is something you should learn around the age of 7.
Yes, I am trying to be condescending.
I assume that english is your mother tongue, if it isn't then you are forgiven :p

Just to correct the "corrector" and for the sake of being more complete than you were so far:

's is also used in the genitive form, or in more common English, when possession needs to be expressed. As per your explanation, I'd have to replace 's with "is"...will be interesting.

Consider:
My brother's bike
My brother's bikes
My brothers' bike
My brothers' bikes

Then to top it all off, in vernacular English the 's is also used to replace "has"...

Cheers,
Bel*.
 

Bibble

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As has been stated, it's relatively easy to ensure that you don't accidentally crossbreed bees after you've "productionised" them. Personally, I set up a line of apiaries, with wooden pipes out the back, alternating cobble and stone (to prevent connecting), and apiarists for insertion. The apiarist pipes are usually configured thus:
to apiary - any bee
away from cobble/stone - anything
along the apiary line - any item

Past it is a line of iron pipes guiding the spare drones to processing and/or storage, as appropriate. The item line will take that to processing, as required.
 

slay_mithos

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An other possibility is to tell the apiarist pipe what species to put into the hive, it helps when you are just automating for a "set and forget", and that you won't change the species inside any time soon.
 

DoctorOr

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I generally prefer to run my product bees as pairs (half the apiarist pipe means half the diamonds) that freely swap drones and princesses between them. Besides, if I want something, then twice something must be better.

Also, any "product" level bee really should be in an alveary. The difference is staggering, and zero maintenance.
 
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tehBlobLord

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Just to correct the "corrector" and for the sake of being more complete than you were so far:

's is also used in the genitive form, or in more common English, when possession needs to be expressed. As per your explanation, I'd have to replace 's with "is"...will be interesting.

Consider:
My brother's bike
My brother's bikes
My brothers' bike
My brothers' bikes

Then to top it all off, in vernacular English the 's is also used to replace "has"...

Cheers,
Bel*.

I hope you'll be pleased to know that you have restored my faith in humanity.

Also, there's the whole mess with proper nouns ending with S which I won't even start to explain. Thought i'd keep it simple for the OP and only cover what is more relevant ;)
 

Dackstrus

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Just to correct the "corrector" and for the sake of being more complete than you were so far:

's is also used in the genitive form, or in more common English, when possession needs to be expressed. As per your explanation, I'd have to replace 's with "is"...will be interesting.

Consider:
My brother's bike
My brother's bikes
My brothers' bike
My brothers' bikes

Then to top it all off, in vernacular English the 's is also used to replace "has"...

Cheers,
Bel*.

Critical hit!
 

DZCreeper

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Thanks everyone, I got it sorted out, and I almost have enough pollen and royal jelly for my first Alveary. I simply put a filter on the path leading into the apiaries that only the species I want are allowed through. To be honest it was sort of late and my usage of any language would likely go wrong. And yes, my native language is English, I am Canadian, doesn't mean I speak it perfectly.
 

Beleriond01

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@DZCreeper: it's all fine and dandy by me mate. In actual fact, most native speakers of a language are not as "attuned" to most intricacies of their language as some foreign users of the same language. I'm Dutch and Dutch is my native tongue but if anyone were to hand me a Dutch letter and ask me to look it over for any and all grammatical errors, inconsistencies, typos, and such...I'd be lost forever and tell them to ask a lecturer of Dutch :)

That being said, I'm all for proper usage of English, or language in general, even on forums. Though I also understand that sometimes it's simply more convenient to write TL;DR :)

In case anyone was wondering, I'm actually a lecturer of English by profession...

@tehbloblord: regarding proper nouns ending in S...not too difficult really. Pronouncing it, however, is a b**** ;)
 

kilteroff

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Not sure how you can blame anyone but yourself for this...
Also, it's Bees with no apostrophe.
The apostrophe-s means "is".
So it's = it is, bee's = bee is
You meant to say Bees, because in the english language, when you put an S on the end of something it becomes plural. This is something you should learn around the age of 7.
Yes, I am trying to be condescending.
I assume that english is your mother tongue, if it isn't then you are forgiven :p


I assume that English is your mother tongue*


If you're going to be a grammar troll at least get your own right ;p

P.S. You succeeded in being condescending.
P.P.S Being condescending is not good.