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Akigawa

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First of all, I have no real hatred of my little pony or whatever. What I don't like is pandering.
What I recommend as a complete alternative is a public database of a buncha modpacks that are available for addition to the launcher rather than sorta shoving this stuff into our launchers and hoping a vast majority of people like it and possibly alienating a few people who just don't really care much for ponies.
Personally the fact that it's just there rustles me a bit. I didn't sign for this, y'know. I signed for FTB, that one modpack with the piss-easy mod addition and the high compatibility with everything.
I mean, I'm just this whiny piss-ant here, you can ignore me if you want, but I think it's kinda undignified to have one of the main packs out of sevenish just a single pony skin mod accompanied by more UI mods, y'know? And if it was made for kids, ask yourself; 'how comparably hard is it to make it easy to access, yet not constantly there?'

Shit, all you gotta do is code a 'marketplace' tab (I use that term loosely and without monetary implications), then just add everything to the marketplace rather than the original list, allowing people to drag-n-drop items from the marketplace to the modpack list. Considering what's been coded already, it'll be super easy. Not only that, but it'll allow more people to make modpacks out of things they like and share them through a URL.
But that's just my own idea; if you take anything away from this, it's that not everyone enjoys what some other people enjoy, so it's a good idea to keep neutral on that and allow people to pick what they wanna see themselves rather than telling them 'they don't have to install it if they don't like it' when they bring up concerns about it. Saying that sort of thing really rattles my bones, y'see. Because not liking something and voicing that you don't like it doesn't always mean you're being rude. Sometimes you're simply uncomfortable.
It's like liking wolf spiders. There are people who love adorable little wolf spiders. But sometimes, when you show someone that spider, they'll be scared of it. That's their bag, so openly displaying that spider will still give people a bad kinda tingly feeling, whether they have to like it or not. Let's not show off our proverbial wolf spiders unless someone says they think they're cute. 'Cause that's just socially unacceptable, now ain't it?
Sorry for rockin' the boat, if I have at all.
By the way, please save any 'hater' comments for a poorly-worded outrage thread; I don't really mean harm, so it'd be really unwise to even begin to do that. I mostly just wanna see if there's something doable that satisfies everyone, y'know?
 
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bigtwisty

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Your ideas sound really good, and I understand where you are coming from. Reality unfortunately disagrees. The fact is, making a modpack is much more involved than simply pulling stuff off a shelf and tossing them in your grocery cart. Many times they have to be massaged a bit to get them to okay nicely together. Configs must be edited, splines must be reticulated... No wait...

This does not even approach the issue of server play, which is made much more feasible by having a specific pack to be pointed at. If what you want is a mod grocery store, that is what we had before FTB and the pack-which-shall-not-be-named. Good luck setting up the configs...
 

Akigawa

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I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about doing the same thing they're doing now, but making seperate lists of installed and not-installed so people don't get upset about what they see ever in the history of ever, then maybe possibly sometime in the future making a better framework for custom modding so people like me who use listen servers don't have to hand-feed people modpacking directions.
 

Greyed

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I just want to know what it is about MLP, specifically, that has now prompted two rage topics in the span of a day. Let's review.

FTBBETAA - Woot!
Voxel - Ok, it's there.
UE - Ok, it's there.
Magic Pack - Woot!
Direwolf20 Pack - Woot!
Mindcrack Pack - Woot!
MLP pack - OMGWTFBBQ, /ragequit because, PONIES!

Seriously, this is a thing to get anyone's undies in a twist?
 

SeniLiX

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The launcher already includes a list of mod packs to choose from. You simply choose the pack you want to play and click "Launch"

It's not like it installs all the packs upon release.

I'm sure they will be implementing some sort of Favorite feature at some point, to allow you to only show the mod packs you prefer.
 

Akigawa

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I just want to know what it is about MLP, specifically, that has now prompted two rage topics in the span of a day. Let's review.

FTBBETAA - Woot!
Voxel - Ok, it's there.
UE - Ok, it's there.
Magic Pack - Woot!
Direwolf20 Pack - Woot!
Mindcrack Pack - Woot!
MLP pack - OMGWTFBBQ, /ragequit because, PONIES!

Seriously, this is a thing to get anyone's undies in a twist?

This isn't a rage topic, though. I'm trying to prevent further rage threads by rustled people and you're kinda missing the point.
I think you might be mistaken based on my icon, but I'm not angry. Perhaps a bit irritated, sure, but not absolutely seething at the thought of ponies being in a launcher.
It's simply irrelevant to everything else. All I'm saying is that there should be an available list and an installed list in separate tabs rather than having everything mashed together like some amorphous blob.
 
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SilvasRuin

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Stirring up drama to prevent drama is silly.

The pack is maintained by the VoxelModPack Team, so it's not irrelevant to everything, not so long as the FTB team is including the Voxel guys' mod packs in the launcher.
 

Enigmius1

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It's pandering, but more of the mutual back scratching kind in and amongst the various different groups that contribute(d) to FTB. I don't necessarily see a problem with it, but I also don't see wtf the deal is with a subculture built around MLP. When I was a kid we watched Transformers, He-Man, GI Joe, and all those kinds of cartoons and we never identified ourselves with what we watched. Maybe it's another vapid abuse of social media but that's the subset so it gets a pack.

Denying that it's pandering is just naive.
 

Honza8D

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Well I also fell similary about DireWolfs pack. I mean seriously? A guy recordes himself playing a game, a thats why he should have own pack here? But hes fairly popular from what I heard, so why the hell not. I mean its not like it makes scrolling and looking for modpack annoying, theres still just a few modpacks there.

It's pandering, but more of the mutual back scratching kind in and amongst the various different groups that contribute(d) to FTB. I don't necessarily see a problem with it, but I also don't see wtf the deal is with a subculture built around MLP. When I was a kid we watched Transformers, He-Man, GI Joe, and all those kinds of cartoons and we never identified ourselves with what we watched. Maybe it's another vapid abuse of social media but that's the subset so it gets a pack.
Well thats because you never liked it so much. I'm not denying that bronies got great media popularity thanks to the "grown-ups should not wotch cartoons" opinions. However MLP:FIM is really great and look what The lord of the rings fan do, or star trek, or naruto and other anime fans, so why the hell not ponies?
 

Greyed

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Well I also fell similary about DireWolfs pack. I mean seriously? A guy recordes himself playing a game, a thats why he should have own pack here?

To be fair there is actually more of a reason for a DW20 pack than anything else.

1: DW20 doesn't just record himself playing a video game. He specializes in modded Mincraft LPs and highlighting new and interesting Minecraft mods.
2: His 4th season SMP was basically a precursor for FTB. It was recorded on the Forge server where most developers of the mods used in FTB along with Slowpoke, the dude behind FTB, went to pretty much test their mods for SMP and cross-mod compatibility.

IE, he's responsible for a great many people learning about, and using, mods in Minecraft. Not only that but he regularly interacts with the people that have contributed greatly to FTB, helping to popularize and highlight their work. To reduce that to "a guy records himself playing a game" is missing quite a bit of the point.

But even if that weren't the case, Slowpoke said in the interview with Docm while the FTB launcher is named after FTB (map and mod pack) it isn't solely for that purpose. That is not only why there are other modpacks but why the are going to include support for private modpacks as well. So even if DW20 were just a guy recording himself playing a game (Coe, Avidya, anyone?) having a public Modpack for their fans in the FTB launcher is within that scope, even if it isn't "FTB"-esque.
 
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Exedra

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The voxelmodpack was made for a server. The MLP pack was made for a server. So it's clearly people butthurt about the ponies, and nothing else.
 

Celestialphoenix

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Tartarus.. I mean at work. Same thing really.
I think the launcher displays the modpacks in the order they were last clicked on, so if you never boot up the MLPack, it'll drop to the bottom of the screen and you'll never see it again.

Too be honest, MLPack looks very similar to VoxelSniper (compiled by same group), so at worst there's 2 similar 3rd party packs that don't drain any significant resources from Slowpoke and Co. If you don't like it, just ignore it- no-ones forcing you to play it.

Give it a week or so for the people who dont care for it to calm down, and all that'll be left are the haters with nothing better to do than write badly written troll posts.

If (like me) you do like it, ponymod works fine with all the FTB packs (install the non-modloader version).
 

raiju

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This isn't a rage topic, though. I'm trying to prevent further rage threads by rustled people and you're kinda missing the point.
I think you might be mistaken based on my icon, but I'm not angry. Perhaps a bit irritated, sure, but not absolutely seething at the thought of ponies being in a launcher.
It's simply irrelevant to everything else. All I'm saying is that there should be an available list and an installed list in separate tabs rather than having everything mashed together like some amorphous blob.

You are "trying to prevent further rage threads" yet for all your ideas didn't do any research.

The brony pack is not for random brony's, and it isn't for you. It was a pack designed in mind for some of the developers kids that they felt others would like too. Think of like their own private pack that they are sharing with others.
 

INCSlayer

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tbh i dont understand how anyone can even spend the energy to get angry at something they dont HAVE to use i dont particularily care for the pony back but its not like someone is FORCING anyone to play it either so i dont see what the fuss is about
 

Jerx99

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Reading through this thread makes me wonder if anyone even read the OP. He's not rageing against ponies, but pointing out a real problem of the list of mods beginning to get crowded... What will it look like in a few months when we have 15 (or more) different modpacks to choose from. The OP also offers an elegant and simple solution that would make it easier for everyone:
  • One tab/list of all the available modpacks in the launcher
  • One tab/list of all your currently installed packs
That way, when launching, you'd only see the 2-3 modpacks you're interested in (some people may say otherwise, but I strongly doubt anyone will actively be playing more than 2 or 3 different modpacks at a time), and not have to sort through the whole list of things I don't care to see or use (for example, I could see myself using Ultimate, Dw20 and the Map pack, and with separate lists, I would never have to see the other packs).

I personally like to keep any interfaces I use as clean as possible, so why not? It's not like anyone's saying "OMG REMOVE PONIES FROM FTB FOREVER". People who only want to use to pony pack could benefit equally from this.

Just my 2 ören.

P.S. Also, if it was the case of the OP/me/anyone being deadly afraid of ponies in the way people fear spiders, why argue about it (would you object if an arachnofobic posted the same thread after a "Creepy Spider" pack was included with a long-legged giant spider as the icon?)
 

FivEven

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Innovate through hate?

I've watched some My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic and it was ok. (Only a couple episodes, might return for more when/if I feel like it.) I was a bigger fan of Kim Possible. Does this make me a Brossible?

Anyway... This whole situation is convoluted because both trolls and non-trolls are bringing their emotionally charged opinions about ponies to a community that is focused on Feed the Beast maps, mods and closely related topics.

Pandering? I'm not even gonna think of why this word is being used. Why? Because every day I hop on my computer and check up on the status of the launcher and the mod packs and see it being expanded upon with new mod packs, patches and more mods I rejoice! Odd? Perhaps, but I know things can go the other way and I don't want this project to lose momentum or take a direction based on "dislike". (Another word for hate, but not as strong.)
 
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FivEven

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Reading through this thread makes me wonder if anyone even read the OP. He's not rageing against ponies, but pointing out a real problem of the list of mods beginning to get crowded... What will it look like in a few months when we have 15 (or more) different modpacks to choose from. The OP also offers an elegant and simple solution that would make it easier for everyone:
  • One tab/list of all the available modpacks in the launcher
  • One tab/list of all your currently installed packs
That way, when launching, you'd only see the 2-3 modpacks you're interested in (some people may say otherwise, but I strongly doubt anyone will actively be playing more than 2 or 3 different modpacks at a time), and not have to sort through the whole list of things I don't care to see or use (for example, I could see myself using Ultimate, Dw20 and the Map pack, and with separate lists, I would never have to see the other packs).


I personally like to keep any interfaces I use as clean as possible, so why not? It's not like anyone's saying "OMG REMOVE PONIES FROM FTB FOREVER". People who only want to use to pony pack could benefit equally from this.

Just my 2 ören.

P.S. Also, if it was the case of the OP/me/anyone being deadly afraid of ponies in the way people fear spiders, why argue about it (would you object if an arachnofobic posted the same thread after a "Creepy Spider" pack was included with a long-legged giant spider as the icon?)
If we focus on the aspect of "improving" the launcher, or at least adding a feature, then that is how the topic should be breached. The only time the word pony would be brought up in such a well thought out post/suggestion is in reference to the "latest" addition to the available list and leave it at that. Also, in regards to the non-existent suggestion post that the OP could head up, there is a board for that. See link below.

http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/forums/launcher-feedback.50/
 

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I don't understand why it's an issue to have lots of choice in the launcher. I don't "get" the MLP thing, but it doesn't bother/irritate me that there's a pack for it. The only reason I can see for any potential problems with so many packs is if it causes the FTB team to struggle to keep everything up to date. I might even check out the MLP pack to see what the fuss is about, but I doubt that there's really a need for any threads objecting to any specific pack. I can totally understand the Mindcrack pack and the DW20 pack, people like to "play along" with the guys they watch on youtube, and DW20 has whole threads in MC forums with information on how to install and update the mods he uses so that people can have a look around/play with his save games - this launcher facilitates that for him.
 
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