Well as I mentioned I have no experience regarding the iron loops, though from what I can gather you would either want to pump lava from the nether, burn netherrack, or burn cobble to make the obsidian to turn into iron. Anyway, I have more that I wanted to say about this, but I am tired and can't put the words together well enough, so I'll come back to this later.
2 questions about steam turbines
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Iron doesn't even need to be gathered from lava. A tier five Zombie soul cage can net you free iron, minus sorting and processing(if needed). Adding the newly updated MineFactory Reloaded by PowerCrystals can even get you some enchanted items(via liquid mob essence). So yes, processing Obsidian or Lava or any other iron outputting recipe can work. But one can use mob farms as well. So Iron is basically free.
The rebalanced turbine is actually good. Unless i fudged on the math it is better than the lava cycle.
You need 99 iron = 50 ore. Made from UU matter 2 ore is 5 uu, so you need 125 UU.
125 UU in IC2 is 125m EU or 20.8m EU with scrap. ~ 71% efficient without scrap net 307m EU, which is more than MJ -> lava generators (276m EU). With scrap that is net 411m EU and 95% efficient process.
Default cost in gregtech is 100x the IC2 scrap cost, that is 16.666m EU per UU. 16.66 * 125 = 2,083,333,333.33. Making a rotor using gregtech UU means you owe 1.651 billion EU.
My math earlier in thread seems to hold for the obsidian to iron cycle in gregtech though and that comes out a little cheaper than the IC2 UU iron path. Net 415.2m EU and 96% efficient. Using a rock crusher instead of a pulverizer will only swing that ~2% more for ~10m EU more over 60 hours.
So the turbine makes 100 EU/t using 320 steam a tick. For the same steam you could run steam engines for 64 MJ/t and make lava out of cobblestone. Our time period is 60 hours = 432k ticks.
in geothermal generators that should be 276m EU (1:1 conversion MJ to EU) and no ongoing costs.
in thermal generators it should be 414.5m EU (1:1.5) and no ongoing costs.
So the rebalanced turbine is actually good. Using the old life and performance numbers you would come out with less EU than a lava generator based system unless you used 100% scrap in a massfab and even with that only gain a little more. Now you come out with way more in IC2 (30m no scrap or 130m with scrap massfab). In Gregtech you need GT thermals to match the turbines total output and technically the turbine nets a 700k more EU over 60 hours
To get that extra output though from the turbine will take a little extra effort to make rotors or automate the rotor production line, but that should be no more complicated than your average lava generator array system.
You need 99 iron = 50 ore. Made from UU matter 2 ore is 5 uu, so you need 125 UU.
125 UU in IC2 is 125m EU or 20.8m EU with scrap. ~ 71% efficient without scrap net 307m EU, which is more than MJ -> lava generators (276m EU). With scrap that is net 411m EU and 95% efficient process.
Default cost in gregtech is 100x the IC2 scrap cost, that is 16.666m EU per UU. 16.66 * 125 = 2,083,333,333.33. Making a rotor using gregtech UU means you owe 1.651 billion EU.
My math earlier in thread seems to hold for the obsidian to iron cycle in gregtech though and that comes out a little cheaper than the IC2 UU iron path. Net 415.2m EU and 96% efficient. Using a rock crusher instead of a pulverizer will only swing that ~2% more for ~10m EU more over 60 hours.
So the turbine makes 100 EU/t using 320 steam a tick. For the same steam you could run steam engines for 64 MJ/t and make lava out of cobblestone. Our time period is 60 hours = 432k ticks.
in geothermal generators that should be 276m EU (1:1 conversion MJ to EU) and no ongoing costs.
in thermal generators it should be 414.5m EU (1:1.5) and no ongoing costs.
So the rebalanced turbine is actually good. Using the old life and performance numbers you would come out with less EU than a lava generator based system unless you used 100% scrap in a massfab and even with that only gain a little more. Now you come out with way more in IC2 (30m no scrap or 130m with scrap massfab). In Gregtech you need GT thermals to match the turbines total output and technically the turbine nets a 700k more EU over 60 hours
To get that extra output though from the turbine will take a little extra effort to make rotors or automate the rotor production line, but that should be no more complicated than your average lava generator array system.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
If you're using soul shards, a T5 Blaze spawner will run 2x36HP and a 36LP with a few rods left over.
Can't get the iron drops from the zombie shard (or is it only player kills for shard-zombies?). A pigzombie shard will net a fair bit of gold, which you can transmute into iron.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
I use a melee turtle in my build.
base Upgrades by Saice, on Flickr
Basily he kills them and his invtory is full of dirt so items shot out the back into a obsiadan piple hit the barrels anything else ends up in the chest at the end.
I have since upgraded this to an extra set of barrels and a brain in a jar both not in this pic.
A melee turtle or two set to hit in a loop, with a brain in a jar and some form of item collector, should grant you plenty of anticipated drops. The brain in a jar will store all the xp for you on top of it.
Edit: I spy a ninja'd moment.
Edit: I spy a ninja'd moment.
A melee turtle or two set to hit in a loop, with a brain in a jar and some form of item collector, should grant you plenty of anticipated drops. The brain in a jar will store all the xp for you on top of it.
Edit: I spy a ninja'd moment.
lol Sorry I'm not always a Ninja shoop but when I am I like to ninja forum posts.
Since you already use turtles in your build, why not use one for the damaged items? A crafty turtle with an appropriate program should be able to combine items and drop fully repaired ones in an output chest.
To be honest I'm not good with them. I got my melee Pwn script basicly just a dowhile attack loop. And for mining I realy just send one to tunnel one way while I go another. I am trash at programing these guys.
Which is why my farm is golem automated.
Yea I derped my math really hard for some reason this time around, last time I dd the calculations I wasn't so bloody far off. When you mentioned the billions of eu cost for GT I realised I made the noob mistake of equating 1 uu to 1 iron dust in my calculations. What I probably did was accidentally thought I had already factored in the cost of the required uu for the ore when I actually hadn't.