[1.6.4] The 95 Pack - V1.2.2
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There is no such item as a low-level smelter
^ this. Made from bronze, which you'll need to make inefficiently until that smelter is built.
Yeah, as both of the above posters said, bronze alloy-smelter (thing) is what you will need, however, there will be a different way to make circuits in the next update, because it is a little ridiculous how hard it is to get circuits now. As if it wasn't bad before
Pfft, its fineYeah, as both of the above posters said, bronze alloy-smelter (thing) is what you will need, however, there will be a different way to make circuits in the next update, because it is a little ridiculous how hard it is to get circuits now. As if it wasn't bad before
(Just teasing, not every GT pack needs to be in hard mode)
Right, I think I found the one you guys were talking about. However, I think I will wait until the next update seeing as jordsta said he will be adding a different circuit recipe. I really don't like how much bronze you need to waste to get such a crap machine
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It actually makes a ton of sense if you think about it. If you want to have a lot of tiers of machines, the progression needs to be small hops, otherwise: a) you risk the crappy-machines being too good to improve on, and/or b) you risk the end-tier machines being too absurdly buff*.
Theoretical macerator tiers:
Works:
Tier0: 100% (1 ore = 1 ingot)
Tier1: 110% (1 ore = 10 nuggets)
Tier2: 150%
Tier3: 200%
Tier4: 250%
Tier5: 300% (1 ore = 3 ingots)
Doesn't work:
Tier0: 100% (1 ore = 1 ingot)
Tier1: 200% (1 ore = 2 ingots)
Tier2: 300%
Tier3: 400%
Tier4: 500%
Tier5: 600% (1 ore = 6 ingots)
Also worth noting, that 90% of your bronze will be used in this stage of the game (the bulk of the rest will go into CESUs probably). So there's no huge point in hoarding it.
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*Unless its RotaryCraft in which case game design fundamentals go out the window. That's fun too sometimes.
Or if you have T.Construct/T.Mechworks, Forestry, Gendustry, (and I believe) ProjectRed which all use a hefty amount of bronze.
You know, I'm embarrassed about Forestry at least. That one's a big bronze consumer. I forgot about it.
Have you ever used Gendustry? It's like Forestry on steroids for bronze consumption. I believe you look at about 2-4 blocks on bronze, minimum per machine. Not to mention the industrial apiary upgrades
No I can't speak to Gendustry at all.
Its sounding more and more like folks are going to want to hoard their copper and tin like little packrats. Prioritize ore-doubling (duh).
Its sounding more and more like folks are going to want to hoard their copper and tin like little packrats. Prioritize ore-doubling (duh).
To get into the bronze age, I had to mine a TON. I'm angry about the 'four dusts give you two bronze dust' thing.
EDIT: This wasn't in this pack.
I like it when you're encouraged to build machines that improve your efficiency
But I know what you mean.It wasn't in just for the reason that a lot of mods are bronze-heavy users, and I'm the sort of person who tries to integrate mods straight from the get-go, so at the minute I work with GregTech/IC2, Railcraft, Buildcraft and just started delving into ComputerCraft. So I can only assume there are people out there who like to play down the techy-bee line, so that means that they will be using bronze too quickly for 4 dust/2 bronze to even seem like an OK idea
OMG since you mentioned Gendustry having an apiary, I knew it was to do with bees!
So I checked it out, it uses MASSIVE amounts of bronze. I don't even have enough bronze to make half of the stuff needed to get started.
So I checked it out, it uses MASSIVE amounts of bronze. I don't even have enough bronze to make half of the stuff needed to get started.
I need FatherToast's mods to update to 1.7 so I can:Do you consider this a fun obstacle or not?
a) Change Chest loot
b) USE MOB PROPERTIES!
..really though. I need to make Essence of Eternal Life and the ichor wand dungeon loot, for a nether star recipe.
Well I've not really started Gendustry yet, so I don't know. But from what I see with one of the machines (had a quick look at a video on youtube) Gendustry does seem to make bees much easier.Do you consider this a fun obstacle or not?
So I would say it is definitely balanced