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Ok change them to 'give an incentive to' and 'reward'. How many choices are made with something like factorization? You make the machines, you grind ores a few times, you get ingots. how is simpler or less tedious equal to more choices? Most of the choice involved comes from using multiple...

I saw a vanilla guy (actually it might have been ftb...) on reddit who played with a rule that he could NOT MINE STONE. To get cobblestone for recipes, he had to bait creepers near the stone so he could pick them up after they blew up, and make a furnace or whatever else he needed that required...

Do machine casings in gregtech create lag if you use them as builkding blocks? I read somewhere not to build with blocks that are used in multiblock structures, but gregtech structures seem to act differently (clicking on the casings does nothing, once the unit is created)

Well not comparing ic2 to any other mod, id just say I hope ic2 keeps the voltages, wrenches, explosions, plate benders and whatever. Ill happily watch stuff blow up because I forgot to move the fiber cable before putting down the electric furnace and putting voltage upgrades in it. More steps...

I see your point, and I wasnt really fair sorry. Still, even with hoppers that redboss so graciously pointed out, cause he's an uber nice guy, vanilla is super tedious compared to any mods. Even having to get to the nether to make steel, to double ores... would probably seem pretty OP to most...

Well in my base, for processing and storage, i have an AE system (routing storage), ic2/gregtech machines (processing), and thermal expansion machines (processing). I have two sets of wiring, ic2 and TE conduits. I have two ways to store power, TE recs, and ic2 MFSu's, etc. When it comes to...

Interesting, I was excited to find out these existed. The best way to say this is that they are a feature for people with different playstyles. Bleh, sorry not everyone sees the world the way you do. What a disappointment, to read that. ive heard people sometimes play minecraft without any way...

I read that Greg plays with a chickenbones mod that removes infinite water blocks. 0_o And... it sounds fun. Except needing to drain an ocean ...daily...to run my base. But your point is completely true, i think. Maybe all of the 'balance' arguements are because people like me like the TE...

Power creep is even worse for this game than most games. Eventually we will have a single wooden stick that you can just click things to make other objects, and give you complete invulnerability. "punch a tree, craft a stick, and get all the items, be invulverable! It blows other mods out of...

I see it the other way. TE and dartcraft are simple, easy mods, with no challenge. IC2 gives you a challenge. But, each of us has his own idea of fun so as Antice said, offer configs to change things. Keep explosions by default, but let people turn them off if they want. In 5 months of daily...

This is awesome! Now if I can get the guys I play with to agree to nerf the converters.

Well when I saw someone say ic2 has to be more like TE I had to post. I just blew up a LESU that was right under my ME drives.... Disks everywhere! The fear of losing 3 full ME drives sucked but how easy do we want to make this game? Why not just set a config to make explosions do no damage...

Explosions ARE fun! Also why do people say they want to automate complex systems but then not like making plates? It adds more power needs and requires you to figure out how to automate more things.

Ideally power converters would just let you config them so if you feel they are cheaty, you can make them less efficient. Space saving and cheap but a loss of power is fair, IMO.

With uu source blocks, you can get flowing water in the nether?

Ok ok wait, something went wrong here. This is what im saying: Some people like to compete, others do not. If a mod doesnt offer configs, i wont play it. I should be able to say that publicly if i want. Obviously mod devs dont have to listen, but if no one speaks up, nothing gets changed. Blue...

Yes this is exactly the problem. Which is why IMO configs are the only way to solve things. I was chatting with the dev of denpipes on reddit, he said the same thing. He offers in depth configs so that people can tailor the mod to how they like, and to fit with other mods. The answer I get is...

No So preople who like to compete are immature? But acknowledging that all of us get different things out of the game and we all have the right to voice our opinion is immature? Riiiiight.

What I meant is that it is ridiculous to think that new mods designing stronger items is inevitable and something we should all desire. Some people like dartcraft some like gregtech, neither is "wrong". But without configs to allow me to nerf OP items and mods, competitive players will drift...

1 and 1. Put steam consumer right on the boiler and 8 more liquiducts around it. Connect all 4 sides to liquiducts then attach the final side to bridge. Then use hv producer.