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    Dirt to UU-Mater

    It's greg's childish idea of making it My way or the highway, because you either get to play how he wants it or get a screwed over game.
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    Greg Tech opinion discussions go here

    A mod refusing to start? Yeah, a coder purposely putting in a code bomb that crashes the game because he doesn't like another mod is a "mod refusing to start". Sure. Shave the wool off your eyes.
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    The problem, Jaded, is that rather than discuss the issue at hand (which is the massive security and trust breach on the part of Gregtech), his acolytes would rather delve back into time and point fingers, going "well he did it too!". And of course, that is the start of an argument doomed to...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    mDiyo challenging Greg? Are you joking? All mDiyo did was do EXACTLY what greg has done since the start of his mod- change something in another person's mod for his own mod's balance. Greg has literally no moral ground upon which to stand- hell, he's in the moral Dead Sea.
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    It's like you're implying he would be sane enough to do that. God forbid people change from his precious standard configs. Don't like his shitty 3+1= 1 or 2 math? Have fun, now you have infinite bronze and I'm a spoiled child so I can't fix an "exploit" for you. The same goes with many of...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    I find it hilarious that the ones who say "You're too stupid to change configs lolololol" are also the ones who don't realize how large of a security risk this is. So much for technological literacy.
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    The largest problem with GT is that, as KirinDave said, it's not marketed as a sort of standalone/total conversion. It cannot be reasonably stuck into a modpack that isn't built around its playstyle; you really have to expect to play GT if you want to enjoy it remotely at all. Once you start...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    Here's a suggestion for greg; make it crash only if they fail a "Greg Test" that tests how 00B3R |-|@RD(0R3 you are at Minecraft; those who are truly "Greglievers" (let's make that a thing, anyone) get to play.
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    I'm not. It's not like Greg doing, quite frankly, outrageous BS is a stretch. Quite frankly, I'm surprised it's taken him this long to do this. Everyone must fit Greg's glorious gregorious vision for the world to be uber-balanced and "realistic".
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    Again, as I said before; This isn't an extreme case of malware. Malware, however, it is. This is not to be taken lightly, as it is malware, though it serves as more of an annoyance than anything. The real question is, what comes next? First, he crashes someone's game when they play with...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    Ah, you're the type of person that's so enamored with Greg that you're willing to toss away fact to defend your overlord. Shave the wool off; a logic bomb (code bomb) is very much what he put here, and very much qualifies as malware...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    Perhaps if FTB added NiceGT to the mod roster and used a 3rd party mod to forcibly remove Greg's hack? I doubt Greg would be too pleased, but considering the shit he pulls on a regular basis...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    Um yes, we should. The fact that greg was willing to do this in a public release is a huge issue. Denying that is as foolish as allowing a cool program that you used to trust to install malware on your computer. It isn't about his petty quarrels. It's about the fact that he is not only willing...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    Same old GT haters? I used to enjoy GT- because it actually offered something. All my ethical qualms with GT aside (and they are numerous and plentiful, at this point), GT has ceased to even be a fun mod whatsoever. Greg literally has started adding nerfs to add grind for the sake of grinding...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    Oh, I know. In hindsight, I probably could have worded it better. Still, something has to be done about this. Honestly, I think everyone should just forget about GT altogether. Greg has no power if no one cares about him any longer.
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    PMing Greg honestly wouldn't change anything. The guy feeds off of drama, and he'd probably just put it on the forums for everyone to see. It would probably be trivial for RG to prevent GT from loading (I didn't necessarily mean a crash); plus, if he continued his )*!@ (which, by all evidence...
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    It could be the easiest and most direct way to stop it, though. It certainly wouldn't chain- a mere threat from RG to end Greg would be taken very seriously. I doubt Greg would be happy about having to make GT a complete standalone.
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    Gregtech deliberately crashing client if TC installed..

    At least the IC2 mod authors aren't infatuated with Greg. I'm sure that if it came down to it RG could and would shut GT down.
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    Am I crazy?

    1.4.7 as in pre-machines XY, or after machines were released? I don't recall XYcraft causing that many problems in 1.4.7, and the machines were definitely useful.