Unlimited pathfinding?
Well, you can always run away, and let the monsters die with distance/time, or put up fences, etc.
The bigger issue is that unlimited pathfinding, without "can you even be sure that there is a path", can quickly turn into a CPU/memory nightmare on the server.
As for "Attract all mobs in range", that's not necessarily a bad thing. It does mean that if you can do a good scratch to someone, and that person does not have backup prayers or other healing options handy, they are in serious trouble / have to wall off. So the whole issue of "The fights will go on forever because someone can disengage, heal, and recover/return" is less of a problem -- since both players have to worry about mutual damage below 6 (Q: Is that 6 hearts, or 6 health? 6 hearts -- you start bleeding at 45% damage taken -- is fairly early/quick), both players have a desire to break off. If anything, arrow sniping / traps become a better option than normal -- bow against a sword, with distance between them, goes to the bow wielder.
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Wait, GasCraft? Isn't that the mod that just makes mining more dangerous, with gas pockets that can explode from torches, and no real benefits from the gases themselves?
While we're picking on Mevansuto's mod list...
Things like ICBM, MFFS, and TT:Kami seem too advanced for a 5 hour event. Galacticraft goes in this bucket too, but he's said he doesn't want to rule out space battles, so whatever.
As cool as ichorium missiles raining down on a force field from SPACE sounds, it probably won't happen in a UHC.
On an unrelated note, weather mod. That's an interesting addition.
EDIT: Wait, saw the post about starting with a cheated Thaumonomicon. TT:Kami can stay.
I'd say no force fields... to OP and people would just bury them selves in or make it so that when a not-whitelisted person enters a specific area instantly dies. Way to OP, even if it is hard to get!I don't feel ICBM is too far in, you can get missiles after one mining trip. MFFS might be a bit hard to get. Galacticraft has awesome space stuffs that I can't deny.
I'd say no force fields... to OP and people would just bury them selves in or make it so that when a not-whitelisted person enters a specific area instantly dies. Way to OP, even if it is hard to get!
About AE: AE has some nice early game stuff like the grind stone.
Good point about AE. You're probably right about MFFS. I'll remove it. What else should be removed?
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Bibliocraft, as well as it's three add-ons, are purely aesthetic and wouldn't have much purpose in a UHC. Same with Carpenter's Blocks and Chisel.
You have Biomes O' Plenty, Highlands, and Advanced Terrain Generation listed, all of which majorly modify the terrain. Are those compatible with each other? Would you be okay narrowing it down to one?
If you won't be using AE for its storage capabilities, get rid of its add-on Extra Cells.
Atomic Science seems too late game.
Hardcore Ender Expansion, while cool, wouldn't be used much. Does anyone actually go to the End in UHC if that isn't the goal of the season?
Any kind of map mod, because you shouldn't be able to see players sneaking up on you on a minimap. This was disabled in Crack The Beast for the same reason.
Damage Indicators...eh. Borderline. You'd be able to tell how much health a target had before you fought.
I don't know enough about Magical Crops to condemn it, but reconsider if you want people being able to grow resources.
Railcraft, Railcraft Dusts, and WRCBE probably won't be used at all.
Enhanced Portals. It's more of a "slightly more convenient portals" mod, rather than a "super awesome deadly portals" mod.
- Advanced Genetics
- AOBD
- Applied Energistics
- ARCHIMEDES' SHIPS
- ArmorStatus HUD
- Ars Magica 2
- Atomic Science
- Better Storage
- Bibliocraft
- Bibliowoods - Biomes O Plenty
- Bibliowoods - Highlands
- Bibliowoods - Natura
- Big Reactors
- Biomes O' Plenty
- Blood Magic
- Carpenter’s Blocks
- Chisel
- DartCraft
- Dungeon Pack
- Ender Storage
- EnderIO
- Engineers Toolbox
- EVOC
- Extra Utilities
- Flat Signs
- ForgeIRC
- Galaticraft
- Gascraft
- Hat Stand
- Hats
- ICBM
- Infinity Bows
- Inventory Tweaks
- Jabba
- Journey Map
- Opis
- Mariculture
- Mekanism
- MFFS
- Minefactory Reloaded
- Modular Power Suit
- Modular Power Suits Addons
- Natura
- NEI
- NEI Addons
- NEI Plugins
- Nether Ores
- Not Enough Keys
- ObsidiPlates
- Open Components
- Open Computers
- OpenBlocks
- Pam's Clay Spawn
- Portal Gun
- Project:Red
- Redstone Arsenal
- Remote IO
- Resonant Induction
- Roguelike Dungeons
- ServerTools
- SortFix
- Special Mobs
- Steve's Factory Manager
- Thaumcraft 4
- Thaumcraft Mob Aspects
- Thaumic Reliquary
- Thaumic Tinkerer
- Thaumic Tinkerer - KAMI
- Thermal Expansion
- Tinkers' Construct
- Tinkers' Mechworks
- Translocators
- Twilight Forest
- Utility Mobs
- W.A.I.L.A
- Weather
- Witchery
- WRCBE
- Xenos' Reliquary
- Agriculture
The total mods installed is currently at 150. Is that too big?
*Post reserved for imminent criticism*
Hang on, switching to a PC.
Would you have a problem with using Opis as you can't see players on that?
I've thought of uses for WRCBE, as I'd personally use it in a game I think I'd like to keep it.
List as it stands.
The total mods installed is currently at 150. Is that too big?
Sounds good!
Interesting point. Were you thinking of long range TNT traps, or something similar?
Archimedes' ships is kind of glitchy and world-destroying. Reconsider?
Are Pam's Clay Spawn and Flat Signs really necessary?
Mariculture? Again, I don't know enough about this one to condemn it, but doesn't it jut add atmosphere to the water areas, as well as gear to help you build a base in the ocean? Would that be used?
You haven't removed MFFS from the mod list! Shame!
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You only have 80 mods listed here! Where did the other 70 come from?
- Exactly, and sand traps.
- Sure, it's gone.
- Nope, gone.
- It's enchantments are worthwhile and lots of food.
- My shame? Your shame.
- The other 70 are dependencies and secret mods (like how Buildcraft is actually 5 mods)
Hats for each team I was thinking. We could make them ourselves.
Just a note, opis allows you to see loaded chunks.I 100% agree with you on the aestics mods, but @Eadorimthryth wants to use them for spawn. They're all compatible in the ATG gamemode, but we could just use BoP.
I'll remove ExtraCells.
I'm reluctant to remove all of Calclavia's mods just because I like them all so much, sorry...
I already removed HEE, I just forgot to say.
Would you have a problem with using Opis as you can't see players on that?
I'll remove Damage Indicators. Might be cheaty in this environment.
Magical Crops won't really be all that useful and as a result I already decided to remove these.
Again, already removed the Railcraft mods. I should try to keep you all better informed. As a result the only power systems now are RF and UE.
I've thought of uses for WRCBE, as I'd personally use it in a game I think I'd like to keep it.
I agree with you on Enhanced Portals, it's gone now.[DOUBLEPOST=1395003700][/DOUBLEPOST]List as it stands.
Just a note, opis allows you to see loaded chunks.
So yeah, you can find players easily.
Okay, I think I'm satisfied with the mod list. Time to suggest my own ideas!
Flan's Mod, because planes!
Computercraft, because mining turtles!
Meteorcraft, because meteors!Wait, diamonds raining from the sky. Not ideal in a UHC.
Minetweaker, to limit the extent of certain mods (AE) !
Starting Inventory, because you mentioned that you wanted the cheated Thaumonomicon and iron tools!
Enviromine, maybe, because this wasn't difficult enough already!
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Wow, this mod list is hard to add to. I had trouble finding mods to suggest.
By the way, do you remember this? I want this to happen.
So... what's end goal for this modpack?
Are you designing it with the Mindcrack guys specifically in mind, or are you making something that's more geared toward the general public?
Is it meant to be an event that lasts five hours, or ten?
Is it meant to be an event at all, or a dedicated server type thing?
Will it actually be on the launcher?
I'm thinking one big event, then we turn it into a minigame server. I would like games to last between 5 and 10 hours. If we can get big people like the Mindcrack guys to play it, that'd be good.
