What would YOU change about BuildCraft?

[OreCruncher]

Sure, it's nice to have mods that care for performance, but you can't demand from a mod to take care that no one kills performance.

Though I can understand the sentiment, I do disagree, especially of the mod author desires to have their mod included in a modpack destined for deployment on a server. In general it has to be expected that a mod will be installed alongside of other mods and all should play well in the server ecosystem.

To be fair a lot of modders out there are not familiar with performance profiling and tuning, or heck, may not even be aware of such a thing. Of course, it has to be stated that I am biased this way because I spent the last 20+ years of professional software development on server side systems.

Good idea! Though you could just disable BC's chunkloading.

I don't think the features are equivalent. If chunkload of quarries is disabled, those chunks will unload as soon as the player is out of the area. Or am I misinterpreting how it works in BC?

 

[asiekierka]

I don't think the features are equivalent. If chunkload of quarries is disabled, those chunks will unload as soon as the player is out of the area. Or am I misinterpreting how it works in BC?

Yes, but you could just require players to place a Personal Anchor next to a Quarry instead, for example. As a free bonus, quarries cannot be used as free chunkloaders that way. (Hmm. I should make it so that quarries stop chunkloading after they've mined to bedrock.)

 

[Celestialphoenix]

I do have issues:
Getting a modded server to maintain 20tps is a problem for admins.
Having pipes chunkload themselves causes the server to run hot even when there are no players are online.

The number of chunks is far less compared to actually having a player online. As I said earlier- If this itself is an issue then your server is chronically underpowered and you have some much bigger problems at hand.

Causes unrelated poorly performing systems to continue to negatively effect other players even when the offending player logs off.

This is a user created issue, not the fault of the mod. Any competent admin can deal with it fairly easily.

Negatively effects players who don't expect that their base will continue to consume limited fuel when they log off.

This is a fair issue. However dropping the loading negatively effects players who partly "wonder out of range" causing a quantum effect when the half loaded pipe network changes its behaviour depending on the presence of an observer.

(Hmm. I should make it so that quarries stop chunkloading after they've mined to bedrock.)

I'm reminded of my 'cobble-gen prank' which jams the quarry.
- you may want to add a little something something that'll shut it down if it mines the same location X times.

 

[OreCruncher]

(Hmm. I should make it so that quarries stop chunkloading after they've mined to bedrock.)

Or are not being powered. Been on servers where players used the quarry as a cheap chunk loader.

 

[dragon_fang101]

I would add something like a wooden pipe, maybe combnition wood/diamond?
so you could specify which items to pull out?

 

[Someone Else 37]

I would add something like a wooden pipe, maybe combnition wood/diamond?
so you could specify which items to pull out?

Doesn't the emerald pipe do that already?

 

[dragon_fang101]

Doesn't the emerald pipe do that already?

the emerald pipe is round robin extraction

 

[KingTriaxx]

No Emerald is filterable.

You could put a personal chunkloader down, but the range is only 3x3, which isn't enough for a max size Quarry. And having the option of personal chunkloading means that for say me, who doesn't have a server to run it on, I only need it when the game is running, it doesn't make a difference. But for a server, having a quarry stop loading, means the light stops updating, the water stops updating, and all the lag freezes for everyone when that person isn't online.

 

[dragon_fang101]

awesome!

 

[Zandorum]

Maybe a Gold Adorned Wooden Pipe for Speedy Extraction?

 

[Someone Else 37]

Maybe a Gold Adorned Wooden Pipe for Speedy Extraction?

If, by "speedy extraction," you mean pulling items from the inventory at a greater rate (i.e. in larger stack sizes or more timer per second), BC already has the technology to do that: For larger stacksizes, dump more RF into the pipe at once with a stronger engine or by configuring more "Energy Pulser" outputs into your gate (each additional pulser active at once doubles the stack size, by the way); and for more activations per second, use multiple engines.

If, instead, you meant pulling items out of the chest and immediately giving them a speed boost, I agree, that would be helpful. I think that's been requested as an additional feature on the Emerald Pipe once or twice; however, I don't remember what came out of that if anything.

 

[dragon_fang101]

does a chunkloader work in ssp when you are not playing?
that would be awesome

 

[OreCruncher]

does a chunkloader work in ssp when you are not playing?
that would be awesome

You mean while the game is not loaded? That would be awesome!

Really, though, quarry chunk loading works in SSP if you are not in the area.

 

[Zandorum]

You mean while the game is not loaded? That would be awesome!

Really, though, quarry chunk loading works in SSP if you are not in the area.

I think they mean while playing a different world, or on multiplayer but not on the world its in.

 

[dragon_fang101]

You mean while the game is not loaded? That would be awesome!

Really, though, quarry chunk loading works in SSP if you are not in the area.

I think they mean while playing a different world, or on multiplayer but not on the world its in.

Any three of these would make my day

 

[Adagiovibe]

So basically you want the single player instance to continue running without actually running the instance? Wut.

 

[dragon_fang101]

well that would be awesome. log off, next day 5000 diamonds? yeah I'll take that.

 

[Padfoote]

well that would be awesome. log off, next day 5000 diamonds? yeah I'll take that.

The only way for that to work is to keep the game running in the background, which sounds like a terrible idea for multiple reasons.

 

[KingTriaxx]

Unless you've got the computer to handle it.

 

[unknown zombie]

I just updated to BC 7.1.8 (from BC 7.0.26) and the Redstone Engines that I have on Pipes and Pumps are operating slowly.. They never heat up past blue phase. Is that normal now? If so, why?