What's going on over at bukkit?

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seanbrockest

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Okay, I admit that I'm a little out of the picture here, so please (politely) correct me if I get anything wrong.

(A little history - https://storify.com/lukegb/the-tale-of-bukkit-for-minecraft-1-8 )

Today (or earlier, depends on timezones, etc), EvilSeph the Bukkit Team Lead, as his forum profile states, made a rather long winded post detailing the end of bukkit, for what seemed to be well thought out reasons. EULA was his main concern. That since Mojang was now enforcing it's EULA, they didn't want to put a lot of effort into something that could easily be shut down on a legal level.

A lot of people replied, condolences, thanks, well wishes.

Then Mojang replied.

"Warren over at bukkit seems to have forgotten that the project was bought by Mojang over two years ago, and isn't his to discontinue."

Uh..... huh? Okay, yeah, I remember the news headlines when that happened. I remember a short hiatus while the project was reorganized. I remember things getting back to business as usual. Literally business as usual. It was as if the "purchase" had never even happened. Other than a few forum posts once in a while, it didn't seem to have mattered.

Then two years later the team lead doesn't even know who owns his project?

What the F?

I once worked for a company that got bought out. The new company swore up and down that they were going to be money only. They liked what we did and didn't want to mess things up. They held to their word, too. Years later we barely knew they existed.

But we KNEW they existed. We knew who owned us. They were still consulted, they sat in on financial reviews, etc etc etc. We knew who they were, and they were very happy to know who we were.

This has very obviously not been happening in the Mojang/Bukkit relationship.
 
Other information I've seen on forums suggested that Mojang was intentionally being extremely "hands_off" sometimes corporate overlords have a habit of destroying what they touch. In that light Mojang may have wanted to see where the Bukkit team took things, but letting them take things to the trash can was not on their list of things they would allow.
 
I can understand that. I actually detailed exactly that in the last few paragraphs of my initial post.

But to be so "hands off" that the project lead forgot he even had an "overlord"? That's crazy talk.

His goodbye letter flat out details his fear of having the project shut down by Mojang.....
 
well I really can't talk for evilseph, but if you where running a community organization, and felt that an evil overlord was about to derail and taint it....... even if he knew he couldn't legally destroy it his statement may yet have some power to derail the organization once the Bukkit isn't what it once was conversations get a bit of fuel. None of us know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but could this have simply been a "childish" means to try and destroy something he doesn't care to continue building?
 
but could this have simply been a "childish" means to try and destroy something he doesn't care to continue building?
Few days from now, wouldn't be surprised if you turn out to be right.

Does anyone know if Mojang has had anything to do with bukkit over the past 2+ years? I don't recall seeing anything on twitter or in the mojang weekly news (3rd party).

At one point I had actually considered the possibility that the whole "Mojang bought Bukkit" thing had been forgotten (seems maybe evilseph did too)