Whats a good source of massfab amplifiers?

[Shakie666]

I just watched DW20's latest lp, where he uses an army of igneous extruders to supply scrap to his massfab. But, with GT there are many different alternatives to scrap. I was just wondering what would be a good renewable supply of amplifier. Off the top of my head I can think of an enderman soul shard providing ender pearl dust. Given the sheer number of pearls you get, and the pretty hefty 50k amplifier per dust, that should keep most any massfab going. Can anyone else think of good renewable amplifier? I've seen some people mention ender eye dust, but you then need 2 mob farms rather than just one, and it seems rather complicated to automate the crafting of the eyes.

Another question: what does the amplifier value actually mean? 1 scrap gives 5k amplifier: does that mean it requires 5k eu to be used up? Or that it saves you 5k eu over not using anything? Or something else entirely?

 

[WayofTime]

The amplifier amount pretty much just denotes how long it works for. A higher number means it lasts longer. I believe it is some form or ratio of EU consumed vs amplifier time used, though with the Matter Fabricator, it is moot seeing as you HAVE to use an amplifier.

Scrap is probably the cheapest, though if you have a lot of nikolite lying around, go ahead and throw that in instead.

 

[EternalDensity]

Sending blaze rods through a pulverizer and then dumping the ender eyes and blaze powder in a xycraft fabricator and sending the output to another pulverizer (or macerator) surely isn't that hard to automate with AE.

 

[dakamojo]

I use an enderman farm for ender pearls to a sequence of fabricators to make diamonds and then to a pulverizer for diamond dust.

 

[Pandemoneus]

I just watched DW20's latest lp, where he uses an army of igneous extruders to supply scrap to his massfab. But, with GT there are many different alternatives to scrap. I was just wondering what would be a good renewable supply of amplifier. Off the top of my head I can think of an enderman soul shard providing ender pearl dust. Given the sheer number of pearls you get, and the pretty hefty 50k amplifier per dust, that should keep most any massfab going. Can anyone else think of good renewable amplifier? I've seen some people mention ender eye dust, but you then need 2 mob farms rather than just one, and it seems rather complicated to automate the crafting of the eyes.

Another question: what does the amplifier value actually mean? 1 scrap gives 5k amplifier: does that mean it requires 5k eu to be used up? Or that it saves you 5k eu over not using anything? Or something else entirely?

If you have extra bees installed, getting radioactive bees for uranium and then using uranium dust as amplifier helps a lot, since one piece of uranium dust is enough for a few pieces of UU.

 

[Shakie666]

If you have extra bees installed, getting radioactive bees for uranium and then using uranium dust as amplifier helps a lot, since one piece of uranium dust is enough for a few pieces of UU.

I have radioactive bees, but I know i'll get more UU matter from the energy that the uranium makes in a reactor than i'll save by using it as an amplifier.

Dakamajo: what crafting/fabricator sequence do you use to get the diamonds?

 

[Pandemoneus]

I have radioactive bees, but I know i'll get more UU matter from the energy that the uranium makes in a reactor than i'll save by using it as an amplifier.

Dakamajo: what crafting/fabricator sequence do you use to get the diamonds?

The only sequence I could think of is: Ender pearl + minium stone = 4 iron, 8 iron + minium stone = 1 gold, 4 gold + minium stone = 1 diamond.

 

[DoctorOr]

I use an enderman farm for ender pearls to a sequence of fabricators to make diamonds and then to a pulverizer for diamond dust.

Seriously, what?

Ok, lets map this

8 Pearls -> 32 Iron -> 4 Gold -> 1 diamond, costing 13 uses of the minium stone.

Which you then grind up to dust use as an amplifier for a value of "100,000"

Or: Grind up two ender pearls to dust. 50000 value each, or 100,000 total

(Edit: My bad, diamonds were upped to 125,000. Clearly that makes them better!)

 

[dakamojo]

Seriously, what?

Ok, lets map this

8 Pearls -> 32 Iron -> 4 Gold -> 1 diamond, costing 13 uses of the minium stone.

Which you then grind up to dust use as an amplifier for a value of "100,000"

Or: Grind up two ender pearls to dust. 50000 value each, or 100,000 total

(Edit: My bad, diamonds were upped to 125,000. Clearly that makes them better!)

All my ender pearls are automatically converted to diamonds. I don't stock ender pearls. When I need ender pearls I convert them back. So for my matt fab, which I eventually turned off because my stock of UUM got too high, I would drop a stack of diamonds in the pulverizer that feeds it. Plus I find it more satisfying to burn diamond dust to get UUM.

Someone on my server suggested I would be even more satisfied if I just converted the diamonds to scrap in a recycler and then used the scrap in the matt fab.

 

[Omicron]

In the original IC2, each point of amplifier multiplies 1 EU by 6.

So by using 33.3333... * 5,000 amplifier, you have amplified 166,666.6666... EU, which gives you 1 UU-matter because six times that value equals 1 million, which is the normal price.

GregTech with its adjustable-cost matter fabricator simply sets a rule of "making 1 UU-matter takes 33.33333... * 5,000 worth of amplifier points, no matter how much EU is actually required". So whether or not you leave the matter fabricator at its default value of 16,666,666 EU, or wther you make it 10 million or 1 million or 4 billion or 15, you will always need exactly that amount of amplifier for 1 UU-matter.




As an aside, my next multiplayer server will have the recycler disabled, as an experiment (my players have already agreed). With no way to produce scrap out of anything, the only sources for amplifier will be the various dusts registered through GregTech. Finally green emerald (and all that silly nikolite) will have a use!