What is the method for perms if you get no answer?

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PhoenixSmith

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What should I do if I contact an author for perms and he does not get back in over two weeks? Is there a set time past which you can use the mod even if you get no answer? It's not a big deal just slightly annoying...
 

pc_assassin

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Well that sucks... So if the modder quit and didn't have a thing for perms there is nothing I could do?

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Padfoote

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Well that sucks... So if the modder quit and didn't have a thing for perms there is nothing I could do?

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If there isn't a copyright that specifies you can use it, pretty much.
 

PhoenixSmith

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This was more of a what if question, but specifically I sent a PM to the Jurrasiccraft dev for perms and he never got back to me. Maybe his IRL is busy, two weeks is not a ton of time I guess. Just slows down progress...
 

Golrith

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This was more of a what if question, but specifically I sent a PM to the Jurrasiccraft dev for perms and he never got back to me. Maybe his IRL is busy, two weeks is not a ton of time I guess. Just slows down progress...
Thankfully, most mods nowadays have some form of open usage policy. Compared to a few versions ago you'd be looking at 25-50% of your modpack needing perms, nowadays it's 0-10%.
Still sucks though if you can't get a reply.
 

PhoenixSmith

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Creators have automatic copyright protection. Redistributing a mod without permission is illegal, even if the author has disappeared.
So in this case all I can do is wait? Or make it so the user goes to the page downloads then drag and drops? ^ This is why I hate licensing issues. Most authors send back "Of course, that would be great" anyways... So it makes the mods not get spread and the packs not as fun. A shame....
 

InfinityRaider

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Modders have full rights to deny redistribution (the technically correct thing to say would be that they have full rights to allow redistribution, as redistribution is not allowed by default). I'm one of the modders requiring pack authors to ask, and I haven't had any problems with it, and I doubt the pack authors have.

Your code is open source, anyone can and may fork it, compile it and redistribute the jars.
 

PhoenixSmith

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Modders have full rights to deny redistribution (the technically correct thing to say would be that they have full rights to allow redistribution, as redistribution is not allowed by default). I'm one of the modders requiring pack authors to ask, and I haven't had any problems with it, and I doubt the pack authors have.
I was not saying they don't. I personally find it frustrating though, because on what grounds, do you for instance judge a pack that wants to use squidutils? It is not built yet so you cant see the quality or work going into it. Do you inquire to the requester what it will be like or something? It just seems like modders can not possible judge a pack on a request alone. So in that case I send in a request you say okay and we go about our merry lives. The problem arises when I dont get a reply. Now I can't use squidutils, and the pack may suffer because of it. If it had been open-source/open licensed I could use it and the end result would be the same. My opinion... To me I just think it sucks to not be able to use awesome mods in my packs, because of legal/licensing issues.
 

PhoenixSmith

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Your code is open source, anyone can and may fork it, compile it and redistribute the jars.
Wait CoolSquids code is opensource? If that is the case I am pretty sure making people request perms is not okay... like legally impossible. If something is opensource everyone can use it was my understanding.
 

PhoenixSmith

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Being on GitHub doesnt mean code is open source. Code on GitHub is also all rights reserved, unless otherwise specified.
Most closed source mods do not put all there code for everyone to see though... Technically I think your right. If no license is chosen then it is all protected.
 

PhoenixSmith

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Visible source != open source. I know mod copyright. I would never have used GitHub if I had to open source my stuff. I use GitHub primarily to avoid being accused of malware again.
And for noobs learning it is helpful. Also- What is a reason you would deny a license grant?