Werewolf Game 2 Game Thread

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PeggleFrank

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So, after reading a few more things, you're all completely off your rocker because of what I said. I'm only explaining my reasoning so that you don't go mad and lynch everyone.

It's like throwing around birdseed. One second, you look like you've lost your mind, yet the next, you're surrounded by frenzied pigeons. It shouldn't be too hard to put them all on a leash, and fly away with them. That's what I keep telling myself, at least...
 

VikeStep

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are you saying that I'm lying and that we are both werewolves peggle? I'm not exactly sure what you are implying
 

PeggleFrank

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are you saying that I'm lying and that we are both werewolves peggle? I'm not exactly sure what you are implying

That's exactly what I'm implying. It's the exact thing that not even the greatest strategist can understand.

There is no 'greatest' strategist.
 

VikeStep

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That's exactly what I'm implying. It's the exact thing that not even the greatest strategist can understand.

There is no 'greatest' strategist.

wow I think you just made yourself a target and became unsuspicious in the same post and made me fall under the same category, except in a worse position than you.
 

PeggleFrank

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wow I think you just made yourself a target and became unsuspicious in the same post and made me fall under the same category, except in a worse position than you.

Confusion is a wonderful thing. Too bad I'm a werewolf, and I can't utilize it to the greatest extent. If only I was a werewolf I could use so much more...

Stating a statement as invalid is an invalid assumption of assumed confusion.
 

VikeStep

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Confusion is a wonderful thing. Too bad I'm a werewolf, and I can't utilize it to the greatest extent. If only I was a werewolf I could use so much more...

Stating a statement as invalid is an invalid assumption of assumed confusion.

Oh i understand it completely, your trying to frame both of us, but also trying to make it look like you didn't frame yourself, good job :D
 

techno156

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Simplify: Pi/42
Show all working.

o_O
Yes, I am changing the topic. No, I am not going to say why.
\o\ |o| /o/
Now, the werewolf could simply be lurking in the shadows, biding its time. :p I would drag Whizz's "Ray Sphere" into this, but it'd break the game. XD
 

Jess887cp

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All of Pebbles grey text gets on my nerves. darn autocorrect.
Chaos is the machination of werewolves.

I can't bold on my phone, but I vote top lynch Peggle. Typo suspicious.farm autocorrect.
 
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Eunomiac

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This will not be my first wall-of-text in this game. (And those who suspect anyone who types a lot will learn that I play a different strategy: I base my credibility on my consistency. The more I explain, the better the chance you catch me in a lie---and the more credible I appear when everything holds together.)

Concise summary of my behavior thus far:
  1. Out of left field, without discussion, PeggleFrank votes to lynch me.
  2. I respond: "Dafuq? Please explain!" He doesn't, not right away.
  3. But instead of jumping on the "lynch Peggle" bandwagon, I defend him---not only from Staxed's suspicions, but also by deflecting a vote from goreae.

    That's three votes I could have had to lynch Peggle---quite an attractive opportunity for me to waste, were I a wolf. But I am not a werewolf, and I do not think Peggle is one either.

  4. I argue that every "civilian" has good reason to trust that the_j485 is a villager, because he called himself a "civilian"---not a "villager". Since this is Werewolf and not Mafia (and since they were called "villagers" in the previous game), it would be reasonable to assume the name of the generic town role is "villager" unless you hold a card that says otherwise. One of the only ways the_j485 could have known we were calling villagers "civilians" in this Werewolf game would be if he had a Civilian card himself.

    Now, why would I potentially build trust between the_j485 and up to five or six other civilians, if I were a werewolf? That's a mighty high cost to pay for a gambit, with little return on my investment.
And then we come to VikeStep:
... if anyone was acting as if they were werewolf like, then Eunomiac is doing it spot on. But I can see right through that. Some people might think peggle is acting like that, but this time he's actually being sensible and to be honest I don't see any flaws

I am "acting werewolf-like"? I've actually been the greatest force for delaying the lynch, allaying suspicions, and building trust in this game---all while being the only other person sitting at risk of a lynching. Do you think, if I were a werewolf, that I would have deflected an easy opportunity to lynch PeggleFrank at a time when I was the only other person at risk of lynching? Not only that, I've made myself a lightning rod for the Seer and/or the werewolves' first kill in the process: If I were a werewolf, I was apparently willing to pay a very high cost to earn a little bit of trust---when I could have earned the same trust just by staying silent.

And then there's the problem with your vagueness: "... acting werewolf like"? "[Peggle] is being sensible ... I don't see any flaws"? Why not elaborate on either of those? As you even pointed out, many do think Peggle is acting werewolf-like---and it's looking like he may be lynched today. So, could you perhaps contribute your insights, to help others avoid a bad lynch? I hope you will because, like you, I don't think Peggle is a werewolf (as I've said before). But unlike you, I don't quite understand what he's up to, and lack the ability to persuade others.

... but I'd rather lynch someone than no-one at all and I suspect you the most
That's a terrible strategy. It's far better to lynch no one, than to lynch a villager. By skipping a villager-lynch, the wolves have one extra person to kill. And I'd argue that the first day, when we have so little information to go on and the largest ratio of good guys to bad guys, is the perfect day to use our one "vote for none" option.

Fortunately, I got what I was hoping to get from PeggleFrank:
... I'm only explaining my reasoning so that you don't go mad and lynch everyone. It's like throwing around birdseed. ... you're surrounded by frenzied pigeons. It shouldn't be too hard to put them all on a leash, and fly away with them.
Translation: He cast an early vote at the first vaguely credible target (the birdseed, the bait), to see who else would jump on the opportunity to lynch on bad evidence (the frenzied pigeons). This gives him valuable information on the suspiciously kill-happy among us, which he can use to identify and fight off the real threats (putting them on a leash and flying away with them).

I do agree that confusing us is poor strategy, though. I suspect Peggle has a role that forces certain behavior from him, OR is a role that actually wants to be lynched.

For my part, I've tried to be clear, and will either answer any questions posed to me, or explain why I am holding back.
 
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Jess887cp

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Good point.a certain role would explain the weird text.and the pigeon strategy is good.the confusion is bad though.

I won't retract my vote, because I don't know of I can. Its unlikely that Peggle will be lynched after that.
 

Eunomiac

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I won't retract my vote, because I don't know of I can. Its unlikely that Peggle will be lynched after that.
You can, by changing it---votes are not locked in like they were in my game (I assumed wrongly earlier).

I vote to lynch none, for the following reasons:
  • It is better to lynch no one than it is to lynch a villager.
  • There is zero actionable information we can use to confidently pick a werewolf to lynch. This will hopefully change after a round of night abilities.
  • Randomly lynching someone is a terrible idea: the odds of accidentally lynching a villager will never be higher than they are right now, when the ratio of villagers to werewolves is highest.
... and I would implore anyone who agrees with my reasoning to vote likewise.
 

Staxed

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I argue that every "civilian" has good reason to trust that the_j485 is a villager, because he called himself a "civilian"---not a "villager". Since this is Werewolf and not Mafia (and since they were called "villagers" in the previous game), it would be reasonable to assume the name of the generic town role is "villager" unless you hold a card that says otherwise. One of the only ways the_j485 could have known we were calling villagers "civilians" in this Werewolf game would be if he had a Civilian card himself.


Of course, since I am a Villager, and not a civilian...this one is kinda shot and brings about more questions than answers since we are not calling villagers civilians.
 

Eunomiac

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Oh dear. Can we get confirmations from any other villagers? I may have just blundered behind closed doors.[DOUBLEPOST=1377611224][/DOUBLEPOST]Or maybe not confirmations --- we don't want all our villagers revealing themselves, raising the odds the Seer might be killed. It's possible the_j485 was just speaking from past Mafia experience. Dammit, Staxed, why couldn't you have posted that five minutes earlier? ;)
 

the_j485

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Look behind you
I have never played any kind of game like this before -_-

I redact my vote for Eunomiac's lynching. I believe he has acted in a very trustworthy way, etc.

I am very suspicious of Vikestep, then Peggle next.[DOUBLEPOST=1377614172][/DOUBLEPOST]I now vote for nobody.
 
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