Werewolf: Another Basic Game [GAME THREAD]

[ljfa]

Day over @trajing ? Or is DST fooling with me?

 

[trajing]

Day over @trajing ? Or is DST fooling with me?

DST is messing with you, there's fifteen minutes left.

 

[trajing]

Recap:

• Pyure was lynched. He was the Wolf.
• Goreae was wolfkilled. He was the Seer.

 

[SpwnX]

Wolfkill RJS.

Edit: wait, wrong place.
Well, think about it as a vote on RJS

 

[playerismc]

antismite SpwnX

 

[Eruantien]

antismite lisymon

 

[RJS]

So Shazam was making us all try and think Pyure was a jester...vote Shazam

 

[Exedra]

Nice try shazam

 

[playerismc]

@Exedra I think you can bold as much as you want, but Trajing won't count it, if you don't put the vote in you're sentence

 

[Shazam08]

So Shazam was making us all try and think Pyure was a jester...vote Shazam

By doing the same thing I did the day before! And the day before that! Wow, I'm such a sneaky nub. I loved the part where I tried to mislead everyone after they'd already voted. Top-notch planning on my part.

If anyone's interested, though, there's a more justified target. And conversations with Pyure that made me think he's a jester! Take your pick. Pick both! Who am I to judge?

 

[ljfa]

not sure...
antismite Exedra

 

[Shazam08]

Alright! Nearly four hours later and no one's taken me up on my offer, and I've got better things to do tonight than wait around for someone to come out with it. Time to take action.

Firstly, I am a boring Villager. Shameful, yes, I know. Probably makes me suspicious as all hell, too, but I hope my actions will speak in my favor.

Second, about the kind @RJS's accusation and the humble @Exedra's ticket on the wagon:

So Shazam was making us all try and think Pyure was a jester...vote Shazam

As I've said before, I wasn't actively trying to convince people that Pyure was a jester. If I was, I would have done it much earlier in the day. You know, when people still had time to change their votes. Next, if we follow your logic, I was trying to save the lynch victims for the past two days.

Let it be clear that I am fully in support of lynching Squid, mangling his body, etc. I am also, however, paranoid as all hell in Jester games. Blame playerismc. Vote Someone Else 37.

Hey, I know that one. GM was devilishly handsome.

Vote Fraction2. I bandwagoned a possible jester once and it got me killed sort of. Never again.

(Also always near the end of the day, I might add)

Finally, though you have every right to doubt me on my personal thoughts and suspicions, I fully believed Pyure to be a Jester when I spoke to him.

Spoiler: Chatting with Pyure

Fact! The Spanish verb for "He annoys" is "Molesta". True story.

Anyway, I'd offer the usual you-tell-role-then-I-tell-role, but I sort of have a guess for you already. A real self-defense vote would've been on Spwn or dylan, but instead you chose to put your vote way in the corner on Fraction. Are you hoping to be lynched, perhaps?

Just hypothetically:
the last couple times I played a jester role, I bombed it badly. It was like my second and third game respectively.

The first time, I made it really obvious I was a "wolf" to anyone who would listen. Too obvious. Doomed.
Second time, I just fucked off the entire game with poetry and banter. Too obvious. Doomed.

I think if someone wanted to get lynched this time around it would way more effective just to drop occasional breadcrumbs and not rush things. And, uh, hope he doesn't get murderized.

Hypothetically.

(This next one came at 9:17 AM EST today, when it was clear he'd be lynched)

Welp, looks I'm hypothetically toast!

There once was a quaint little town
That never quite seemed to calm down
They squabbled and fought
Till one wolf was shot
Who turned out to just be a clown.

So yes, I thought he was a jester, and I didn't feel particularly partial to death at the time. @RJS, @Exedra, I strongly urge you to reconsider your positions.

 

[Eruantien]

I might have somewhat sensitive information that could possibly allow me to maybe make a probable assumption. Thanks for the convos, you know who.

 

[SpwnX]

Hey, I received it from pyure too:

I once knew a young man named Spanks
Who lynched me as one of his pranks
I suspect I’ll return
And foes will I burn
For vengeance is my form of thanks.
at 9:35 AM (My time is GMT -4)

 

[Shazam08]

As for the real criminal... Why don't we continue perusing my chat with Pyure?

Spoiler

Welp, looks I'm hypothetically toast!

There once was a quaint little town
That never quite seemed to calm down
They squabbled and fought
Till one wolf was shot
Who turned out to just be a clown.

Man, they'll never know what hit 'em. Hypothetically.

Speaking of which, if I die tonight and you have the chance to target one SpwnXXX with any lethal powers, that would theoretically be very appreciated.

My lethal powers would fail on him, sources indicate he's a survivor.

Other sources, such as J's lifeless corpse, indicate he's lying.

All the mediums are dead, you don't have info from J's lifeless corpse.

J's lifeless corpse is more talkative than you'd think.

(Here I quoted trajing's revelation that J was a Survivor. Notice how Pyure never commented on it, either publicly or privately, even though he had known Spwn had claimed Survivor.)

I don't consider that a power role, so duplicates are possible.

(See that response? Remember it. You'll see it again soon.)
(Next here I quoted from my role convo with trajing, where I asked him what a "power role" specifically was. I had a good reason for asking earlier which, again, we'll get to in a minute. His response was "Anything except boring Wolf and boring Villager.")

Ask him yourself, if you don't believe me. Survivor's a powered role like any other.

Erm, works for me. I'll give him a big explosive hug.

What did we notice, kids? Let's recap:

1. I wanted our "Jester" to kill SpwnX
2. Pyure, a now-revealed wolf, supported Spwn's claim as a Survivor
3. As part of that support, Pyure claimed that Survivor was not a powered role

Judge me how you will from this chat; I've already addressed the singular accusation against me. This post is entirely dedicated to calling out the one, and the only, Spwn of Great Echs.

Spwn had earlier claimed to be a Survivor to me. He'd claimed the same thing to Pyure, of course, and possibly to Vike, Fraction, and Goreae as well. Why is this important? Because our lovely friend @the_j485 also turned out to be a Survivor.

• J was smited. He was the survivor.

Funny that! I thought there was something... Gah, what was it? Something about power roles not being duplicated. Trajing, what were your exact words?

NOTE: Powered roles are not duplicated

Thanks man.

And, though Pyure and another relevant fellow will try to tell you otherwise, the Survivor is, in fact, a powered role. Ask trajing yourself! Better yet, @trajing, why not tell us all here? What's a powered role? I know the answer, but some may doubt it.

I confronted Spwn about this privately. For the sake of completion, I've included the entire chat. Nothing to hide here.

Spoiler

Hallo!

As per the usual greeting, I offer the offer of standard offer offering. You tell me your role, I'll tell you mine, and hopefully no one backstabs the other afterwards.

If you're a wolf, ignore me completely and tell Sir Rabies to lift me up to the heavens. My team's boned.

Whaddya say?

Greetings shazzy. Usual greeting indeed. Well, do you remember me cursing RNG and my luck? You do. Probably.
Well, i'm likely going to do it again, as i'm the survivor and thus I have another pain in the ass role to manage.
I'd like you to not kill me if possible :3

Survivor? Man, you've got a better chance than I do. I'm a boring Villager.

Hey, want to play a game? It's easy! Here. You'll play a townie that's 100% proven his role publicly, and I'll play everyone else.

I claim to be...

• Six powered townies, one of whom claims to be a duplicate Seer
• One neutral Survivor
• Maybe a neutral Jester, or maybe a role very obviously faked.
• 12/13 villagers, at least four of whom are lying.

To see where I'm lying, you've got a grand total of one Seer. And a Drunken Seer that won't help at all. Woo.

So, uh... If you're contacted by a wolf at any point, ask them to send the Rabid my way. For science.

Do you really intend to join the wolf team? Why tell me such. And no, i haven't been contacted by a wolf so far. Just our lovely supposedly spy math error.

The chances of being converted before being killed or lynched, especially with only one conversion in the entire game, are slim to none. I "intend" to join the wolves in the same way that I "intend" to win a lottery one day.

Unlikely. If it happens, great. If not, that's expected and where my main plans are.

Besides, what harm is there in telling you? I haven't committed some great atrocity, or taken to the streets yelling "LYNCH ME NOW, YA PRICKS!". I'm speculating and/or keeping options open.

I see, so you're telling me for no other reason than hoping something might happen. Yeah, another plane might crash today.

At least i'll survive.

Is that a threat?

"Hey everyone! Shazam said he was unhappy with being a Villager and may want to be a wolf instead! Kick his ass!"

I don't have any plans to do any harm to you or to anyone.
Not even If i wanted... well, at most sway a lynch towards someone, but that would cost me my life and that is something i'd like to keep for this game, so yeah, you're safe from me.

I just hope the opposite is also true.

You're fine. What am I going to do, use Splash?

That game have yet to come.

"What are you going to do", don't ask me, like hell I know if you're really a villager or not.
I just hope to not see a big ball of rice coming to crush me because you had rice to spare.
Someone called me something for some reason, didn't that person do?

I am, in fact, a villager. The Seer is the only way to prove it, of course, but I've got two logic things going for me.

• Probability! There's, like, an 8 or 9 in twenty chance that any one person would end up as boring villager #5.
• Neutralness! Even if I was a wolf, which I'm not, I'd still have no reason to kill a neutral role like Survivor. If I was a villager, which I am, the same applies.

I will stay my rice. Unless someone else turns out to be a Survivor, in which case shit gets real.

By now you should be a wolfie, right?

Theoretically, yes. ._.

The same should apply to you, Vike, and Pyure, though.

I am not one. I just told fury to pay you a visit as you've requested.

(To recap: I figured the village was boned (Sue me) and put out a request for the Rabid wolf on the same night that said Rabid, Fury, died. Spwn said that he'd told Fury to target me, a statement he later backpedaled on. The confrontation's up next, following the death of J.)

J was a Survivor. Two hours to explain yourself.

Survivor is not a power role. From that I'll take that fury did not infect you as I've expected.

("Survivor is not a powered role". GEE, where have I heard that recently? Hmm. Quite the oddly specific misconception to be had two players at once.)

I've asked trajing; Anything that isn't a boring Wolf or a boring Villager is a power role. Survivor, for example, has the power to put on vests to protect himself from harm.

Hour and a half.

(This next post will be his defense. To the best of my knowledge, I've since addressed every point he's made.)

Fine. I just did not trust you. Telling everyone that i'm the survivor is optimal for my survival (I don't want to be a target for wolfkills nor lynches).
Yet I am not a powered role. I'm just a "smart" villager that lies. Heard about fooling your friends to fool your enemies?

Oh, I also lied about talking to fury. I just wanted to see a reaction that could possibly indicate your wolfishness.

Now I hope you're not a wolf that is trying to push me into a lynch or seeking a target.

You lied about your role because you didn't trust me? Fair enough. Can't fault you for that.

What I can fault you for is your response to my accusation.

The reason you told me you were a survivor in the first was, supposedly, that you didn't trust me. In that post, you:

1. Clung to the notion that you were a Survivor, persisting the lie after I called you out on it, and
2. Stated that your trust for me had improved.

Why would you continue to lie about it afterwards? That's inconsistent.

As for "lying" about talking to Fury... What? You wanted to gauge my wolfishness by saying you talked to the Rabid Wolf? What could that possibly have accomplished?

Hour and ten.

I kept the lie until it was no longer sustainable. Simple. You countered it to the point I could not keep lying about it.
Now whether you're doing this as a villager or a wolf is still unknown to me. I'm just more inclined to think you're a villager.

The lie about fury was just some BS to try get a reaction when making a big statement.
Like "yes i am a wolf now and i'd like to work together with you, fellow survivor in exchange for your life" and "no, i am not a wolf, are you sure you've talked to fury". Something. Yet you did not make any statement about it until now, bringing me back to level 0.

Anyways, simple and clear, we're both villagers. Keeping this argument won't go anywhere. If you're feeling like starting a lynch over me, sure, do it, that would just bring the wolves closer to their victory.
What about asking the seer (if you happen to know him) to investigate me?

I will. He was planning to go for Someone tonight, but that can wait.

Who have you told that you're a Survivor?

Do it.

Thanks, Palpatine. Who else have you told that you're a survivor?

I had failed to understand that question.
Vikestep, Fraction2, Pyure and you so far.

Pyure should have called you out on it. Por que no?

I don't know. He seems to have a better target for now maybe.

I recommend reading the whole thing. It's quite entertaining.

Spwn claimed to be a Survivor, and Pyure supported his claim with almost the exact wording of the exact reasoning he gave to justify it. Spwn has now backpedaled into claiming an unprovable role, saying that everything he'd done earlier (including the Survivor claim, and saying the he'd told Fury to convert into a wolf) was all part of some ruse to lure me out as a wolf, which he continued doing even after he acknowledged trust in me. I swear to god, this man is not who he says he is, and may some existential being strike me down if I am wrong.

Vote SpwnX.

 

[SpwnX]

I never said I trusted you. I just said that it is impossible for me to hide as a survivor regardless of your allegiance.
If you are wolf or a villager it won't matter. I'm either a lovely target for the wolves or a friend of the village. Now i'm being a target of a possible wolf.
Why waste a wolfkill when there is a plausible story to lynch him, right?
Now because of you I can't hide as a passive neutral like I tried all the game.

In any case, you just found our conversation a very very convenient way to sway the lynch away from you to me. One more day to live is always a good day for a wolf. vote Shazam in self defense.

Unfortunately for me i'm not that good when it comes to defend my point, so I just hope everyone can believe me that i'm a villager that tried to disguise as a neutral in order to survive (and fool the wolves).

 

[Shazam08]

it is impossible for me to hide as a survivor regardless of your allegiance.

Now because of you I can't hide as a passive neutral like I tried all the game.

Mmm.

If it makes you feel any better, Spwn, anyone with two brain cells to rub together wouldn't have believed your claim after J's death.

In any case, you just found our conversation a very very convenient way to sway the lynch away from you to me. One more day to live is always a good day for a wolf. vote Shazam in self defense.

Oh, I'd been preparing an accusation on you for a while. I would've released it yesterday, in fact, if you hadn't provided a private answer before my two-hour countdown ran out.

The current accusation against me, which I've already refuted on three counts, is irrelevant and severely flawed. The plan to expose you moves forward.

 

[Gamefury64]

Way to go sherlock homes shaz.

oOoOoOoOoOoOo

 

[Exedra]

Way to go sherlock homes shaz.

oOoOoOoOoOoOo

Are you fucking kidding me.

Also shaz, I just bonded your name, I never voted

Vote SpwnX

 

[SpwnX]

Mmm.
If it makes you feel any better, Spwn, anyone with two brain cells to rub together wouldn't have believed your claim after J's death.

Of course I wasn't expecting the survivor to die so early in the game, especially when his objective is to survive to the end and he has the ability to protect himself for three nights.