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Celestialphoenix

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Tartarus.. I mean at work. Same thing really.
Also, on a note of that. I don't know who it was, but someone on the forums had something like 400 machines all in one chunk, and wondered why he was lagging like a mothertrucker

Slightly better than wondering why someone's base is lagging out, only to realise the ENITRE thing is built of microparts to "save materials"
[Seriously- he was making 'blocks' out of 6 panels]
 

jordsta95

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Your not going to make players buy them are you, or use some dumb rank system to gain access... I can't stand servers like that. :mad:
#Illegal #EULA ... etc.
But using in game currency to buy them wouldn't be bad:
e.g.
Chunkloader = $5000000
Dirt, cobble, etc. = $1 (sell)
Diamond = $8742

That way you still get it, but not easily...
Either that or they just don't want players to craft them for whatever reason
 
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PhoenixSmith

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Ah yes, I was thinking of the ol 1.6.4 modded servers. Is it true you cant sell any rights to any modded item now? For instance if I make a mod make an uncraftable item and let server owners sell it would that be legal? I hope not because charging for modded blocks was annoy as heck on public servers. I tried to give away guns on my server if a player donated and got accused of breaking the EULA. :p
 

ljfa

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Ah yes, I was thinking of the ol 1.6.4 modded servers. Is it true you cant sell any rights to any modded item now?
It's okay to give "status symbols" to donors, but only if it doesn't affect the gameplay.
So a highlighted chat prefix is okay, but exclusive access to certain items isn't.
That's how I understand it.
 

PhoenixSmith

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It's okay to give "status symbols" to donors, but only if it doesn't affect the gameplay.
So a highlighted chat prefix is okay, but exclusive access to certain items isn't.
That's how I understand it.
So giving aesthetically different flans guns is fine then?
 

Celestialphoenix

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Tartarus.. I mean at work. Same thing really.
I don't know if modded stuff is covered under that EULA stuff that no-one reads. (Its not Mojang's code)
But even if selling it is 'legal'- its a technicality, and lawyering your way around the rules is a fairly dickish thing to do regardless.
Though one would also question selling access to a private beta version of a mod.
 

jordsta95

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I don't know if modded stuff is covered under that EULA stuff that no-one reads. (Its not Mojang's code)
But even if selling it is 'legal'- its a technicality, and lawyering your way around the rules is a fairly dickish thing to do regardless.
Though one would also question selling access to a private beta version of a mod.
I do not like that. And I think that should be something that should be stopped... I'm looking at you azanor >.>
I had to wait until he released thaumcraft update to update Thaumic Tinkerer so that it would work with Buildcraft 6.2.6, and a LOT of things needed that update, seeing as I needed to update that because of COFHcore updating, and the whole RF system getting a few tweaks... So azanor being a douchsnozzle meant that I was unable to update half of a mod pack, because of Thaumic Tinkerer. (Which I know is not Azanor's fault, but it is Azanor's fault that his mods' add-ons were released before Thaumcraft was)
 

mcalpha

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Huh?

a) did Azanor sell access to his builds to the addon devs? Or rather just provide them with the builds for quicker updates?

b) what is the difference to the Thaumic Tinkerer update coming out a few days after the Thaumcraft update? You'd still be waiting for it.

Seriously, I wish people would stop attributing everything to modders being douchebags on a whim, without knowing all the facts.
 

jordsta95

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Huh?

a) did Azanor sell access to his builds to the addon devs? Or rather just provide them with the builds for quicker updates?

b) what is the difference to the Thaumic Tinkerer update coming out a few days after the Thaumcraft update? You'd still be waiting for it.

Seriously, I wish people would stop attributing everything to modders being douchebags on a whim, without knowing all the facts.
A) I believe the Thaumic Tinkerer dev paid for beta access so that they could make sure TT was updated as soon as TC was released
B) When the add-on for the mod becomes available before the actual mod (to the general public) it's just not right
 

jordsta95

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Most mod licences deny commercial use, which by default includes selling items.
Even those which don't still doesn't make it legal, seeing as you are still violating Mojang's EULA, as chunkloaders and turtles are pretty damn useful (not aesthetic)
 

mcalpha

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Yep, it's pretty much "all content you make belongs to our game and therefore we have the final say".
 

mcalpha

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However, I'm not including any original code. Therefore it's not a deriative work.
Yes, Mojang/MS don't claim copyright on your code. However, they can (and do, in the EULA) make restrictions about what you are allowed to distribute as a mod (remember the issue about deliberately crashing code/player blacklists in some mods), and how you can use it together with Minecraft, since they own it.
 

ljfa

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How is a mod author backlisting a player any different from a server blacklisting a player?
Good question. The one calls for drama since every user of the mod may know it, the other one doesn't since it only affects that one server.