Vineacraft: Hiatus (Not dead)

[Pokefenn]

just promised on http://www.twitch.tv/slowpoke101
That one day i will add vinea hammocks on one condition, we reach 23k (including the t-shirt and donations)
It recently reached 20k
Come and join us

 

[dgdas9]

Just promised on http://www.twitch.tv/slowpoke101
That one day i will add vinea hammocks on one condition, we reach 23k (including the t-shirt and donations)
It recently reached 20k
Come and join us

I just started watching, are they playing 1.2? Or was EE2 FINALLY updated (I know about EE3, i know, I just prefer EE2, don't kill me yet)

 

[Pokefenn]

Playing ftb retro, so 1.2.5.
Last night was great.....
We all did karaoke party and i was in brutal pain from swollen tonsils.

 

[Pokefenn]

Ok, we didnt meet the goal :/
No vinea hammock.
It was going to be a modular bed kinda, it could be any size you want it to be.

Unless someone donates 2k within the next hour or something.

 

[the_j485]

Ok, we didnt meet the goal :/
No vinea hammock.
It was going to be a modular bed kinda, it could be any size you want it to be.

Unless someone donates 2k within the next hour or something.

I donate my love. Do it. I will love you forever.

 

[dgdas9]

Peggle asked me on TS an Idea for your mod. I have one. But you will probably not like it.

ZHE VINEA DESTROYER!

Simple. You put vines inside it. And they disappear. No power required. Kinda OP, but still. You get rid of your annoying vines.

Mod done!

 

[the_j485]

Peggle asked me on TS an Idea for your mod. I have one. But you will probably not like it.

ZHE VINEA DESTROYER!

Simple. You put vines inside it. And they disappear. No power required. Kinda OP, but still. You get rid of your annoying vines.

Mod done!

Hey, how about it requires vines to operate, and it function is to destroy vines

 

[Pokefenn]

Ok, the event if over.

I had a great time
Slowpoke invited me into teamspeak, which is kinda normal.
Then suddenly StrayMav, soaryn and direwolf are all in the room, which was kinda overwhelming xD
I actually got pulled into singing mad world on karaoke party......
The Vinea Hammock wont be added into the game UNLESS in the next charity event we hit a goal which i say.
We also raised $23k
Back to regular coding!

I'm inspired now

Edit:Also i didnt finish red-matter-clicker, but I'll have it ready for next one hopefully ^^
And like the vineaHammock i will only release on a goal!

 

[Vauthil]

We all did karaoke party and i was in brutal pain from swollen tonsils.

You too? I don't really mind, I got to hear Jaded laughing and having fun again and that's what mattered to me.

I'm inspired now

Excellent. Looking forward to seeing more. =)

 

[Pokefenn]

You too? I don't really mind, I got to hear Jaded laughing and having fun again and that's what mattered to me.


Excellent. Looking forward to seeing more. =)

Haha, you got good scores on most of them
My voice wasnt deep enough so to get 15th place i had to change by voice by using my hands (kinda complicated way)
But I was also ok with it, it was for the children and in the spirit of charity so i dont mind!

 

[Pokefenn]

Time for some TheoryCrafting and maths time with Pokefenn!

So on average i found that vines grow about once every 2 and a half minutes.
Vine sap maths will be based around a basic setup (picture below) that is the basic setup for one vinea harvester.
Vinea harvesters more than likely will go like : 5 infront, 0 behind, 0 above, 2 under and 0 to sides.
I havent decided how much a vine gives, but the numbers will be based around how much i want a machine or tank to be filled in time, so for example, if i wanted to fill a 16 bucket tank in 5 minutes, vines would give 8 buckets (that number is just an example, i wont be using that)

EDIT: I should note that i was talking about with just 1 vine growing, with the recommended 10 it would be 0.8 buckets.

Its actually quite strange how slow they grow.
Going to spend a few hours working on numbers and stuff.

 

[wolfsilver00]

So, i dont wanna be an asshole.. but.. u said something that was never done before but you like making stuff that is available from other mods.. only difference is that you use vines.. So.. yeah.. I dont really see the point of this..

 

[PeggleFrank]

So, i dont wanna be an asshole.. but.. u said something that was never done before but you like making stuff that is available from other mods.. only difference is that you use vines.. So.. yeah.. I dont really see the point of this..

The machines and the power system will work upon vines, yes, but the machines themselves will work differently from other machines. Example being the multi-block ore doubler, which can work fast and double your ores, or work slow and triple, quadruple, or even quintuple them.


Originality can be found in variety. Don't assume that just because the things in the mod can be accomplished with other mods, there must be nothing original.



Also, "assembly line" machines aren't the heart of the mod, there will be other things, too. Like vine grappling hooks, mobility-based armor, or Tinker's Construct vine tools.

 

[Pokefenn]

Peggle said everything i could.
The main heart of the mod is using vine sap and machines, the machines allow originality through different means.
I'm implementing the main parts of the mod currently, so later i can do the more cool stuff which i want

It seemed that you didnt read pretty much anything said before......

 

[wolfsilver00]

Still.. Fast and double.. macerator, pulverizer.. etc..
Slow and triple.. Cristalization...
Multiblock.. Thaumcraft..

I understand that originality can be found in variety, but again, we have a ton, A TON, of ways to work on ores and stuff.. Doing that again is just.. Useless. It kinda sucks, but it is.. Instead of oil, vines. But its still the same idea:

Input 1 ore,output 2 or 3 ores, machine as the way, and vines (instead of oil) as the price. It is still the same thing that 5 mods already do.

For the other part, grappling hook.. I kinda want to see that, i use the better dungeons one.. but it doesnt work too well, mobility based armour, machinemuse modular power suits has everything you could ever need except the omnipotence of gravi. And.. tinkers construct vine tools.. Again, i dont wanna be an asshole, but as you pain the mod it seems like another machine chain to multiply your ores with a set of armour and some tools.. that are even gonna be from another mod! So.. It's not original at all.. The only idea that came from your head until now, is to use vines as the focus. Thats it.. Everything else has been seen somewhere else (and in large quantities).. you can enter the minecraft forums and you are not going to be able to scroll 2 pages without seeing a new revolucionary "Multiply your ores, craft your new armour that does wonderfull stuff and get some new tools!!" mod.. And this one is, just that. But with vines. Thats the truth :S As you said, the main heart of the mod is: Using vine (fine) and machines (fine).. But what you do with that 2 things, is just the same shit we see every day we open minecraft in a ftb pack.

There is a lot you could do with "vine" maybe instead of trying to create a whole new revolucionary and original way of doing the same thing we always do, you could try to orient it in some way it goes with the mods we already had, instead of overlapping them... Find a way to turn find into fuel, do some nature stuff and make some crops, we havent seen already a mod that gives REAL, GOOD, farming. Yeah, we have like.. what? 4 or 5 new types of crop.. (and 2 of them are barley and do the same thing.. ) and some new trees.. Use your vine for stuff we dont have, not for stuff we already have in every single mod. And if you are going to re use the same idea that everyone is reusing, then dont call it original, 'cause it isnt :S

 

[Pokefenn]

Your ignorance is unbelievable, its like you havent thought any of this through.
I'll start off with the ores.

The vinea acidic corrupter was a idea about a MODULAR machine duplication, it can either go fast and give you 2 ores or go VERY slow and give you 4.
Thats the reason why its multiblock, that and balance.
The closest thing to this is the stuff from factorization, but vineacraft still doesnt it different.
And this will be a minor focus and just a reason to use vinesap as a late game thingy.

My armour will be made for MID game not the incredibly strong LATE game MMMPS (which even MachineMuse has said went very wrong) and it will provide little to no protection.

Your telling me how i should make my mod when you dont even though anything about it.
Read into things and think more before you write a wall of derp insulting me and my ideas.

Also, i havent said all my ideas yet, i have lots i havent said out yet.
Also, there are few items/blocks said out loud so far, a few of them share a few connections and you think that means that its a carbon copy with one tiny change.

Edit: Also through the IDEA and prospect of using vine sap for "power" allows originality through MANY different ways, just have a think about it.
And also, a mod is someones creation, or as some call it their "baby" you insult their mod you insult them directly.

 

[the_j485]

Please. You are adding nothing useful to the discussion, only slandering Pokefenn's mod which hasn't even been made yet, and hasn't been fully developed.
I do not wish to involve a moderator, but I will if necessary, if we cannot solve this like sensible and mature people.

 

[Vauthil]

No need to blow the moderator whistle, we're already watching.

(A quick refresher of the policy on attacks & bullying found as the "Bullying" link in my signature may be useful in considering additional replies).

 

[Hydra]

Your ignorance is unbelievable, its like you havent thought any of this through.
I'll start off with the ores.

Might I give you a tip? Critique is good, if it's supportive of what you're doing. Telling you that everything done is "done before" is not supportive criticism but simply being an ass. So if you read something that's basically diagonally opposed to what you want to do: don't even bother replying. It takes energy, leaves you in a foul mood, and it only invites the troll to respond again and you end up in a neverending cycle.

Program whatever the hell you think is fun. If it actually is fun to other people they'll use it, if it isn't atleast you had fun. Don't let nay-sayers get the better of you. You're much better off just ignoring them.

 

[Pokefenn]

Might I give you a tip? Critique is good, if it's supportive of what you're doing. Telling you that everything done is "done before" is not supportive criticism but simply being an ass. So if you read something that's basically diagonally opposed to what you want to do: don't even bother replying. It takes energy, leaves you in a foul mood, and it only invites the troll to respond again and you end up in a neverending cycle.

Program whatever the hell you think is fun. If it actually is fun to other people they'll use it, if it isn't atleast you had fun. Don't let nay-sayers get the better of you. You're much better off just ignoring them.

I wasn't going to say anything past that one post :c
I kinda lost my temper alot......

I'm all for constructive criticism, I like to hear it.
But when there is destructive criticism with little said but "done before".
In this world most things have been "done before" putting a new spin on things doesnt mean its not original