The thing is yes you get vanilla spawners but that is nothing compared so a quick script that takes a bucket from the barrel ontop and dupes it then drops all the empty buckets down into another barrel and repeat ? That's way more efficient than a iron golem farm ![DOUBLEPOST=1375981519][/DOUBLEPOST]Even more efficient than the iron trench !! Think about it 16 buckets is 48 iron ! That can give you such a head start for ic2 machines, mps armour , gregtech, and mostly my whole server trades with iron because no one has it besides the dupers who we do not know !