TiCon crossbows - min reload speed?

[Heliomance]

So I've heard several times that crossbows are hard-capped at a 0.5s reload time. I've been poking through the source code, though, and I can't find anything to support that. What the code seems to do is this:

1) It is impossible to, through the use of redstone, reduce reload time below 0.25s
2) This restriction does not apply to the base, unmodified reload speed of the weapon. If your bow limb material and bowstring combine to give a reload speed below 0.25s, this is absolutely fine. The only combination I'm aware of that does this is signalum limbs and an enchanted fabric string.

Does anyone have a source on the 0.5s assertion? Because as far as I can tell it's just not true.

 

[sgbros1]

It's normally capped at 0.25s.

Chances are they typo'd, or remembered the wrong number.

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Hard-cap is .25. Prior to ExtraTiC and certain other material components becoming available, it was nearly impossible to achieve while retaining any damage potential.

Signalum is crack. I've got a crossbow with signalum limb and some bolts with Enderium tips. Umm... yea, that's gonna leave a mark when it hits. I went ahead and put mossy on the bolts to reduce repair costs since there's not much point of putting on nether quartz (not that there's much point in nether quartz on ammo anymore anyway).

I'm on a server with a husband and wife team doing LP's. I've got Blood Magic armor and TiCo tools. He's got Thaumcraft stuff (going for Kami next) and some TiCo tools. She's gone down Botania. We've killed the Gaia Guardian for her a couple of times, looking at doing the Gaia Guardian II fight in the near future. Just got done with the thaumcraft warp portal for him to get a pearl.

Of the three, my crossbow does the most damage, bar none. I can three-shot the End Dragon. One shot puts the Wither into melee-only mode. Although his chain lightning and her rod of unstable whatever do really good on crowds.

 

[Heliomance]

I think the 0.25 second cap is a misconception. Having crawled through the code, I'm almost certain it only applies to redstone. There's nothing preventing the base crossbow from being faster than that if you're using good enough (read overpowered) materials.

 

[jdog1408]

I think the 0.25 second cap is a misconception. Having crawled through the code, I'm almost certain it only applies to redstone. There's nothing preventing the base crossbow from being faster than that if you're using good enough (read overpowered) materials.

That's the Signalum & Enchanted Fabric combo that OP posted. Other than that I don't know of any combos unless there is some smaller mod idk of.

 

[jdog1408]

Hard-cap is .25. Prior to ExtraTiC and certain other material components becoming available, it was nearly impossible to achieve while retaining any damage potential.

Signalum is crack. I've got a crossbow with signalum limb and some bolts with Enderium tips. Umm... yea, that's gonna leave a mark when it hits. I went ahead and put mossy on the bolts to reduce repair costs since there's not much point of putting on nether quartz (not that there's much point in nether quartz on ammo anymore anyway).

I'm on a server with a husband and wife team doing LP's. I've got Blood Magic armor and TiCo tools. He's got Thaumcraft stuff (going for Kami next) and some TiCo tools. She's gone down Botania. We've killed the Gaia Guardian for her a couple of times, looking at doing the Gaia Guardian II fight in the near future. Just got done with the thaumcraft warp portal for him to get a pearl.

Of the three, my crossbow does the most damage, bar none. I can three-shot the End Dragon. One shot puts the Wither into melee-only mode. Although his chain lightning and her rod of unstable whatever do really good on crowds.

The first system they had was [Crossbow Damage] • [Arrow Damage] • [Arrow Weight] so I was able to One shot the Wither with Lead tips and titanium limbs, I think. But now I have one with signalum that rapid fires and does about 70% damage to the Wither.

 

[KingTriaxx]

Does the crossbow have a bash attack? Or am I thinking of Dwarf Fortress. Because there's something amusing about the idea of shooting the wither once, and then finishing it with a single bash from a quartzed up xbow.

 

[jdog1408]

Does the crossbow have a bash attack? Or am I thinking of Dwarf Fortress. Because there's something amusing about the idea of shooting the wither once, and then finishing it with a single bash from a quartzed up xbow.

Uhh, haven't played for a while but last time I did, adding nether quartz increased the bash damage.

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Does the crossbow have a bash attack? Or am I thinking of Dwarf Fortress. Because there's something amusing about the idea of shooting the wither once, and then finishing it with a single bash from a quartzed up xbow.

It does, but base damage is worse than a non-weapon tool with a multiplier of even worse.

 

[jdog1408]

We could have a thread just about TiCon tools and weapons, if anyone knows of one shoot me a message otherwise I'll make one. But I'm assuming there is some sort of mega thread somewhere.

 

[KingTriaxx]

Ah. Would take too long to bash it to death then. Oh well.