The point of bees?

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immibis

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The point of bees is to make the rest of the game basically pointless. As someone else pointed out, "what don't you use bees for?" Why mine? Bees! Why combat for XP? Bees! Why explore? Bees! Why use the mechanics of other mods to do things those mods can do? BEES!!!!!!

Prime reason why any world I create drops Forestry post-haste. The name of the game is Minecraft. Mine... and Craft. Not Insect Breeder.
They should make a modpack called Insect Breeding Simulator 2013.
 

egor66

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So I mean really whats the point of bees? The things they give just doesn't seem to justify the cost of time investment. (even if you semi automate it)

The only reason I could see having bees would be to have them produce some of the harder to find materials, such as oil. All the ores and such can be had from a simple quarry or any of the other mining methods.

What do you guys use bees for?


For that matter whats the point of MineCraft, its set of challenges we set our selves, if you enjoy the challenge do it if not dont bother, the same can be said for most mods...
 

PhilHibbs

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The point of bees is to make the rest of the game basically pointless. As someone else pointed out, "what don't you use bees for?" Why mine? Bees! Why combat for XP? Bees! Why explore? Bees! Why use the mechanics of other mods to do things those mods can do? BEES!!!!!!
That's why the mod pack is called "Feed The Bees". :D
 

dtech100

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In 1.5.2 and earlier version of IC2 you could make almost everything from uu matter. Right now in 1.6.4 making uu costs enormous amount of EU and cost of uu increased - for using it for stuff.
Bees can make a lot of stuff - basic ores + copper, tin, all stones - lapis, redstone, glowstone, uranium - right now radioactive bee don't make uranium cause change of IC2, oil & fuel from refined bee, diamond, emerald - from binnie & magic bees, all dyes, zombie flesh, spider string, wheat, bones, gunpowder and tones of other stuff if you have GregTech.
But gaining bees costs huge amount of time for mutating all spiecies - more than 200 spiecies - nothing for free.

When you have first alveary you can make awesome mutation machine which speeds a lot process of getting all kind of bees.

I like to produce tones of stuff from bees to use it as a building material - lapis, cobalt blocks.
Also i like bees for that than i can't make tones of mystcraft ages and my world save don't have 1 Gb.

Someone said that bees are OP - in end game almost all is OP - boilers, tree farms, spawners. The same thing is in vanilla Minecraft - when you have villagers you can make iron farm, when you have witch farm you have tones of redstone & glowstone, skeletons - bone meal & arrows, simple cobblestone generation etc.

I love bees - especially when you have Normal/ Hard mode in Forestry - mutating bees is very tough and needs a lot of time. But i simply love mutating them.
 

Flipz

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Personally, I'm addicted to bees for the same reason I enjoy Pokémon: I "gotta catch 'em all!" :p
 
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RedBoss

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I enjoyed the one time I used bees. It reminded me of AP Biology which was a high school class that I loved. That said I'll probably never use them again. It breaks my immersion that an insect can excrete lava, oil, or metal.

I don't knock those who use bees. I'll gladly look at your alveary and machine setup. I'm glad you're enjoying the little buggers. I'll even take those XP drones and use them maybe..
 

huldu

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The keyword in this thread is extra bees. The bees from forestry alone are... not so great.
 

Bomb Bloke

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I enjoyed the one time I used bees. It reminded me of AP Biology which was a high school class that I loved. That said I'll probably never use them again. It breaks my immersion that an insect can excrete lava, oil, or metal.
Back when I was a young boy, I met an old man who kept bees. The whole "perfecting the genome" game was a reality to him - he'd started out with some local swarms (that liked the climate there) and some imported ones (that made a decent amount of honey, but didn't like the damp so much) and tried to cross them to get the best of both worlds.

He told me a story about how in Africa (or some such place) they'd cultivated a bee that had an affinity for gold - it'd seek the stuff out if it could find it, and incorporate it into its hives. They kept these bees near exhausted gold mines in the hopes of harvesting whatever minute traces had been trod into the dirt and so forth.

He also told me his hope was that his own swarms would someday find him some gold, but of course he never found any in the combs he collected.

I've no idea of the truth of any of this (I've searched the internet for details but come up empty-handed), but long story short I've always considered that Forestry's bees simply find the special materials they build their combs from - like birds building a nest. Not realistically plausible of course (as taken to their extreme, they'll still go strong producing gold or whatever after hundreds of generations living alone in a void world), but then, Minecraft takes its first break from reality around about the moment you first punch through a tree.
 

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You can't punch trees irl? Why do I have such scarred knuckles? The nice man from China with the long white mustache made me train everyday! Waaaaaaahhhhhh
 
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zorn

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KingLemming told me recently that instead of using industrialcraft ("play the game, don't let the game play you") I should... breed bees.

I cannot see how it is any different. For some reason bee breeding is considered cool and elite, but making centrifuges is lame. I don't get it. @OP its all the same, you do stuff to get resources. Bees, machines, whatever. Hopefully the machines or processes provide problems to solve to make it interesting. If bees are not interesting and quarries are, just keep using quarries then.
 
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