What is the best way to start off with Gregtech hard mode?
The only normal recipe is the macerator.
Anyone?
The only normal recipe is the macerator.
Anyone?
Starting off....
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Starting off a new world, or starting off GregTech in an established world?
If you haven't already, it's well worth getting most forms of vanilla infrastructure setup before the more advanced GregTech items. Sure, get a macerator ASAP, but then concentrate on getting to the End and getting that dragon out of the way. By then you should have access to XP on tap, so to speak, along with fairly simple access to all resources.
In particular, the End is probably THE fastest way to get experience (fortune enchantment!) and, essential to GregTech, iridium.
In terms of building GregTech stuff, work out what machine is your goal and read backwards through NEI until you're aware which machines are required. Most machines need other machines built in order to process the resources they need. For example, once your macerator is setup, you'll want an industrial electrolyser + centrifuge, followed by a blast furnace and industrial grinder.
Rubies are essential for producing chrome. You won't even be able to process them for quite some time, but eventually you'll want a lot of the stuff, so be aware that silk touching the ruby ore will eventually net you a lot more when your industrial grinder is up and running (stockpile until then, along with any other ores you don't need to use yet - the longer you wait the more returns you'll get out of converting them to usable resources). A Rock Cutter tool is a handy thing to have, as is a lappack, if you don't have easy access to diamond tools and lvl30 enchants. Sapphires are also notable for replacing diamonds in some recipes.
For machines that require liquids, try to avoid cans. You usually don't get those containers back. Cells are usually returned, but be careful about filling them with useless stuff that you might not be able to easily empty out of them.
If you can manage it, a laser-driven assembly table is a good way to skip IC-chip production. Failing that, consider getting into bees early. Lapis bees generate LOTS of lapis. Corroded (copper), tarnished (tin) and resolute (bronze) bees will make your life much, much easier. Oh, and get a turtle or two to mine out some chunks for you - seriously, you're gonna be using a lot of resources here, even if they don't have access to silk touch they'll save you a lot of time.
If you haven't already, it's well worth getting most forms of vanilla infrastructure setup before the more advanced GregTech items. Sure, get a macerator ASAP, but then concentrate on getting to the End and getting that dragon out of the way. By then you should have access to XP on tap, so to speak, along with fairly simple access to all resources.
In particular, the End is probably THE fastest way to get experience (fortune enchantment!) and, essential to GregTech, iridium.
In terms of building GregTech stuff, work out what machine is your goal and read backwards through NEI until you're aware which machines are required. Most machines need other machines built in order to process the resources they need. For example, once your macerator is setup, you'll want an industrial electrolyser + centrifuge, followed by a blast furnace and industrial grinder.
Rubies are essential for producing chrome. You won't even be able to process them for quite some time, but eventually you'll want a lot of the stuff, so be aware that silk touching the ruby ore will eventually net you a lot more when your industrial grinder is up and running (stockpile until then, along with any other ores you don't need to use yet - the longer you wait the more returns you'll get out of converting them to usable resources). A Rock Cutter tool is a handy thing to have, as is a lappack, if you don't have easy access to diamond tools and lvl30 enchants. Sapphires are also notable for replacing diamonds in some recipes.
For machines that require liquids, try to avoid cans. You usually don't get those containers back. Cells are usually returned, but be careful about filling them with useless stuff that you might not be able to easily empty out of them.
If you can manage it, a laser-driven assembly table is a good way to skip IC-chip production. Failing that, consider getting into bees early. Lapis bees generate LOTS of lapis. Corroded (copper), tarnished (tin) and resolute (bronze) bees will make your life much, much easier. Oh, and get a turtle or two to mine out some chunks for you - seriously, you're gonna be using a lot of resources here, even if they don't have access to silk touch they'll save you a lot of time.
The way you should go is Thermal Expansion Pulverizer. Greg does not change the recipe of this, or at least, he tries, but cannot (Unless you change a TE config.). This is powered by MJ, so a cheap way to go would be Railcraft "Hobbyist's Steam Engine."
If you are using 1.5.1, use the clockwork engine (powered by right clicking it) until you have the mats for the engine above. Hilarious, I know, but very efficient.
If you are using 1.5.1, use the clockwork engine (powered by right clicking it) until you have the mats for the engine above. Hilarious, I know, but very efficient.
I think he's asking about Gregtech. If we're not giving him advice about gregtech, the cheapest way to go is a furnace.
Funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. So hilarious.
But really the only hilarious thing as that Forestry lacks information on recipes and such in NEI and on its official wiki.
And I think he's playing FTB (if he's posting in the right forum). If he really wants to advance in GregTech he's going to want the most efficient ore processing he can get.
The clockwork engine is more expensive than the Hobbyist's Steam Engine.
Really? Gotta re-check that recipe now. MC just crashed, so... gotta wait a while. Good thing I set up my own, non-ID Resolver Modpack so I don't have to wait a month for all the IDs to load.
I'm assuming you're on Mindcrack, since that's the only hardmode server.
There really is nothing for it but to mine, I'm afraid. The typical progression goes like this:
- Mine.
- Mine some more.
- Get a handful of diamonds at least.
- Set up a rubber tree farm. You'll want, at a bare minium, 8 rubber points to mine from.
- Build a portal to the nether.
- Get lava out of the nether and into geothermal generators using buildcraft and ender chests (or tanks if you have them).
- Use that to start powering your growing line of machines.
- As soon as you can generate 64 eu/t reliably, get some of that lava you're using tapped into an industrial centrifuge. Centrifuing lava takes a long time and fair sum of power, but nets a good amount of copper, silver, gold and tin. It will greatly reduce your mining time.
- You are now ready to start building the tier-2 machines.
In my current world I am playing Gregtech like this:
1. Basic IC2 machines (Macerator, Extractor, Compressor)
2. Upgrade those machines, much faster
3. Industrial Grinder
4. Implosion Compressor
5. Industrial Centrifuge
6. Industrial Blast Furnace
7. Matter Fabricator
8. QUANTUM ARMOR!
I have such an efficient power source that I can run most machines all at once. I currently have a nether pump pumping lava into 30 GregTech Thermal Generators. My Thermals are typically filled with lava (at liquid amounts of 10,000). At the moment this is all going into one MFE, but eventually it will be 5 MFE's. This MFE gets transferred to LV for my Basic Upgraded Machines. It also goes to my main machine room into an MFE for the Grinder, a Batbox for the Compressor and Centrifuge, and another MFE for the Blast Furnace. Eventually I will have a Matter Fabricator using up all of my Forcicium and scrap (when I make some) with a couple MFSU's.
1. Basic IC2 machines (Macerator, Extractor, Compressor)
2. Upgrade those machines, much faster
3. Industrial Grinder
4. Implosion Compressor
5. Industrial Centrifuge
6. Industrial Blast Furnace
7. Matter Fabricator
8. QUANTUM ARMOR!
I have such an efficient power source that I can run most machines all at once. I currently have a nether pump pumping lava into 30 GregTech Thermal Generators. My Thermals are typically filled with lava (at liquid amounts of 10,000). At the moment this is all going into one MFE, but eventually it will be 5 MFE's. This MFE gets transferred to LV for my Basic Upgraded Machines. It also goes to my main machine room into an MFE for the Grinder, a Batbox for the Compressor and Centrifuge, and another MFE for the Blast Furnace. Eventually I will have a Matter Fabricator using up all of my Forcicium and scrap (when I make some) with a couple MFSU's.
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[DOUBLEPOST=1367854590][/DOUBLEPOST]And also I didn't say I would only use Gregtech
I'd recommend using the Pulverizer (Thermal Expansion) for your ore processing instead of a Macerator, as it will actually do most of the things a Macerator will do, as well as occasionally give you bonus materials, and Greg makes macerators expansive. Greg actually seems to add Pulverizer recipes, with bonuses- I'm pretty sure that King Lemming didn't add the recipes for silktouched Nikolite ore and Iridium ore.
Alternatively, you could use an Induction Smelter for your ores (if you have a reliable source of sand)- from what I've heard, it's about 10 times as efficient as a macerator-electric furnace combo with enough overclockers to run at the same speed. It, too, will give you bonuses in the form of Rich Slag, which can be used in the Smelter in place of sand for 3 ingots per ore.
All in all, I would probably use the Pulverizer on Ferrous and Iridium ores (to get the very important Platinum byproduct) and the Smelter on everything else, using Rich Slag on gold, copper, tin, or whatever else I happen to be low on.
To my understanding, the MatterFab requires a component that can be made with either an Iridium Plate or a Platinum Ingot. As Iridium Plates require an Implosion Compressor to create, I would probably recommend going for that Platinum byproduct on Iridium and Ferrous Ores, in a Pulverizer. Platinum can also be found as its own ore in the End, but you'll probably want to get Quantum Armor or a Modular Powersuit before you go there, because dragon.
Alternatively, you could use an Induction Smelter for your ores (if you have a reliable source of sand)- from what I've heard, it's about 10 times as efficient as a macerator-electric furnace combo with enough overclockers to run at the same speed. It, too, will give you bonuses in the form of Rich Slag, which can be used in the Smelter in place of sand for 3 ingots per ore.
All in all, I would probably use the Pulverizer on Ferrous and Iridium ores (to get the very important Platinum byproduct) and the Smelter on everything else, using Rich Slag on gold, copper, tin, or whatever else I happen to be low on.
To my understanding, the MatterFab requires a component that can be made with either an Iridium Plate or a Platinum Ingot. As Iridium Plates require an Implosion Compressor to create, I would probably recommend going for that Platinum byproduct on Iridium and Ferrous Ores, in a Pulverizer. Platinum can also be found as its own ore in the End, but you'll probably want to get Quantum Armor or a Modular Powersuit before you go there, because dragon.