Some assistance with Macerating and Smelting

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Osborne1992

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Hello, sorry if I posted this in the wrong place, not sure really where to go. I'm not having issues running FTB or anything, I am just having trouble working out how to set up a simple (in my mind at least) system for ore macerating and smelting.

I play on the Direwolf20 1.5 v2 v1.1.3 pack.

To start, I have 3 chests, 1 chest for ores that are to be macerated, one for blocks I just want smelted and the third for the finished product.
From the first chest, the ores travel down to a macerator, they then proceed to a furnace, and then go up to the third chest. The second chest just goes right to the furnace and back up. Debating making a second furnace to deal with some foreseeable problems.

But my issue lies in the Macerator to Furnace journey.
Iron ore goes in the macerator and goes to the furnace, smelts and goes away no problem.
But if I were to macerate Monazit ore, I get Forcicium. This cannot be smelted and so I would love if it would just bypass the furnace and go up to the chests above.
I just cannot get this to happen though. The issue I guess I have, is that the ores that CAN be smelted, don't ALWAYS go in the furnace. And as an added problem, if my salvation lies in iron transportation pipes, for whatever reason it seems to be inverted, so a blocked off end is actually the output. But I can only have one of those. It doesn't let me have more than one.

Could anyone offer some advice? It's driving me mad and I'm making a big mess of the room I made for these machines XD
 
use some filtered itemducts. Blacklist the things you dont want going into the furnace. or whitelist the things you do, whichever. Oh, 1.5 I see. itemducts dont exist yet. Sounds like you are very early game. Why would you start a new 1.5 world when 1.6.4 is so much better?

Diamond pipes can filter items for you if you arent interested in upgrading.
 
I had not noticed there was a 1.6.4 XD

EDIT: Actually I did see it, but I also saw "BETA" on it so I avoided it XD
 
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So pre-1.6, you'll really need to use buildcraft pipes for this.

Ore Chest ->
wooden transport pipe* (extracts from an inventory) ->
golden transport pipe (accelerates items passing through it) ->
Macerator ->
wooden transport pipe ->
golden transport pipe ->
diamond transport pipe (sorts items passing through it) ->
one face set to transport unsmeltable items to the output chest
another face set to transport stuff to the smelter. ->
Smelter.

You are limited to 8 items specified per category/face of the diamond transport pipe, so you can just filter by implication. Only have the input and two outputs connected, set the items that can't go into the smelter (there shouldn't be that many) on one face and leave the other face blank. Put dirt or something else that can't come from a macerator on the face that stuff is coming in from, this will prevent stuff routing back, and this will mean smeltables head to the smelter by default.
 
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I'm playing on the third party pack, Hatpack now.
Playing in creative, learning how to set things up before I have a proper go with a friend.
I have a little issue of how to go about mass macerating and smelting now.
Right now if there's too much in the machine or something else is currently occupying it. I have the transport pips set up to just do a ring so they either come back around and try again or just go back up to the chest and down again, repeating until done.
Not sure if it's the most efficient way of doing things.
Is it possible to set up a macerating and furnace system to only send more things to macerate when there is space or empty?
And as for the furnace, right now it's a single pipe going from macerator to furnace, I'm pretty sure the furnace smelts faster so it's probably never going to be an issue. But might it be safer to send macerated items to another chest, then from there to the furnace?

I guess it's a little hard to explain properly... XD
Right now I have everything set up to working how I'd like. I'm fiddling with the diamond transport pipe now to send things the right way. I'm not entirely sure what can or can't be smelted after mascerating. The Forcicium I was on about in the OP no longer exists in this mod pack.

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And something just set my house on fire... Not sure what.
No lava spilled out somehow from the geothermal generator so I'm ruling that out.
Can redstone engines get so hot they cause fire?
 
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Well there were holes after the fire. Perhaps an enderman took a block of wood. Explains why fires were going until it was all replaced with marble
 
endermans won't grab anything you've placed iirc.

As for solutions for overfilling, i'm a genuinely lazy sort of fellow who just makes the same loop arrangement you mentioned.

BUT, for those of a more active persuasion, you can use a vanilla comparator to output a redstone signal depending on how full the machine is, invert it with a redstone torch then use that output on whatever is powering your wooden transport pipe, so it'll either turn off the redstone engine or you can set an autarchic gate to deactivate when it stops getting redstone signal.

or you can do a similar thing with BC gates on an output pipe of some sort.
 
For very early automation, Hoppers are your friends tbh.
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You can then use BC pipes to extract from one machine to another machines Hopper/chest or extract from a "dropoff" and into the right machines chests with a diamond pipe. Because the Hopper/chest combination adds such a large buffer you will most likely never see any problems with overflow.
 
THAT's what I was after ages ago.. I could not remember the name of the thing XD
So the stuff in the chest just goes into the hopper when there is space?
 
Osborne1992 said:
THAT's what I was after ages ago.. I could not remember the name of the thing XD
So the stuff in the chest just goes into the hopper when there is space?
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Yes the Hopper will pull items from an inventory above it, into itself and output it down into an inventory below it. It will only perform any of these steps if there is room in the destination. So no spilling items etc. You dont really need to use a chest, as the Hopper itself have 5(i think) inventory slots. But the chests just expand that "buffer" so you can dump more than 5 stacks into it at the time.
 
Thing is, if you are going to use DW20 1.6 pack, you can use a pulverizer and redstone furnace side by side and set the output of the pulverizer to the side with the furnace. No need for pipes. One chest with a hopper feeding the pulverizer, one chest to take the smelted items out of the furnace.
 
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Thing is, if you are going to use DW20 1.6 pack, you can use a pulverizer and redstone furnace side by side and set the output of the pulverizer to the side with the furnace. No need for pipes. One chest with a hopper feeding the pulverizer, one chest to take the smelted items out of the furnace.
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As long as everything you pulverize should/can also be smelted. Else it just clogs up the system or smelts it automatically before you can retrieve it.
I much prefer having a means of sorting in between the two steps.
 
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Sorry, I have a secondary pulverizer for those items. Set up with a chest with two itemducts with whitelist on one for the non smelty stuff.
 
Having some issues with a chunk loader trying to pump lava from the nether to a tank in under my house. The chunk loader doesn't seem to be working. I have it hooked up by a liquiduct from a pump.
I actually set up a second one since the first had all the lava instantly going into the tesseract I put down.
Anyway, again the mod pack is 3rd party set, Hatpack. The chunk loader in question I think is part of MineFactory reloaded. It's the only one I have available, only other thing under the name is a module I believe.
Right now anyway, that's my issue, chunk loaders not loading chunks. Not sure if there's an alternate thing I can use...

*quick search* Might a World Anchor work? Not sure how it does work but I've heard the name being used in some FTB Let's Plays I'm watching


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Also, my Geothermal Generators (made a couple more to keep up with the quarry and other things I'm running) Have stopped accepting buckets of lava entirely... Normally I, or at least my tube set up, could pop a bucket in the top box and when it needed it, it'd be used and the bucket sent back. Now I can't put anything in there... Is it because it's hooked up directly to a lava tank it does this?
 
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