Solution for Factorization router spitting bee frames all over the ground?

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asb3pe

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I use Factorization router with a machine filter upgrade to place impregnated frames into all my bee alvearies. I have an enderchest that is kept filled with frames, and I connect the chest to the router with one length of wooden transport pipe and an autarchic gate set to "space in inventory" and "single energy pulse". It works pretty well except that it often sends two frames when only one is needed (even with the "single energy pulse" setting on the gate) and the buildcraft pipe spits the frame onto the ground where it will eventually despawn.

I had one router feeding 50 alvearies, but I thought that might be too slow (the router doesn't feed in frames very fast) so I made one router for each row of alvearies. I thought that would help, but when I came back to check, there were frames all over the ground. The routers were all working properly, they just pull too many in at once and then spit them out onto the ground. Very annoying and wasteful. I immediately thought that I could just put a vacuum hopper nearby to suck them all up and recycle them... but nah. I like to do things neatly and properly, that's more like a band-aid solution. I'm nuts, I know. :)

It was suggested here the other day that I should go to AE for my beekeeping, however the problem with that is my bee complex is located far away from my main base (I put it into a quarry hole I had made). So I can't use AE because of the long distance. I send all the bee products back to base via a tesseract and process everything there.

What do you do to keep your alvearies stocked with frames? I need to get away from this Factorization method somehow. I know I can make a little separate AE network just for my bees, but I'd like to hear suggestions from other players before I take the plunge and go that route. Perhaps someone has discovered a different way to insert frames into alvearies. If I use AE, do I just need one export bus for each alveary, and that will fill all the frame blocks? Or do I need to put one export bus on each frame block in the alveary?
 
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It was suggested here the other day that I should go to AE for my beekeeping, however the problem with that is my bee complex is located far away from my main base (I put it into a quarry hole I had made). So I can't use AE because of the long distance. I send all the bee products back to base via a tesseract and process everything there.

ME Quantum Network Bridge.
 
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you need to make an iron autarchic gate and also set the option "pipe empty"
so it would be "pipe empty" "space in inventory" -----------> single energy pulse
 

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you need to make an iron autarchic gate and also set the option "pipe empty"
so it would be "pipe empty" "space in inventory" -----------> single energy pulse

"Logical, captain. Spock out." :) Thanks LoGal, why don't I ever think of these things?

I'm already well along the destructive path to a complete bee conversion. Here's where I am right now and I thought I'd share... because I think it's funny! A quarter of a million items, eh? Good thing I've been running that Cursed Earth mega-grinder all this time! Now I know what I can do with those million-item stacks. :)

http://wiki.feed-the-beast.com/Singularity

Singularity
The Singularity is a crafting component within Applied Energistics. A Singularity is used alongside Ender Pearl Dust and an explosion in the creation of Quantum Entangled Singularities.

Recipe
To create a Singularity, 256,000 items must be fed to an ME Condenser that is configured to create Singularities.
 

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"Logical, captain. Spock out." :) Thanks LoGal, why don't I ever think of these things?

I'm already well along the destructive path to a complete bee conversion. Here's where I am right now and I thought I'd share... because I think it's funny! A quarter of a million items, eh? Good thing I've been running that Cursed Earth mega-grinder all this time! Now I know what I can do with those million-item stacks. :)

http://wiki.feed-the-beast.com/Singularity

Singularity
The Singularity is a crafting component within Applied Energistics. A Singularity is used alongside Ender Pearl Dust and an explosion in the creation of Quantum Entangled Singularities.

Recipe
To create a Singularity, 256,000 items must be fed to an ME Condenser that is configured to create Singularities.

Yeah, it's a lot of items for a Singularity, but it's well worth it. My advice, use a Tiny TNT or a blastproof room for creating one. Less damage that way.
 

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For that setup I'd use TE itemducts instead of a BC pipe. If you don't have them, try a second router (with a machine filter) set to pull from the ender chest and eject into the original router.
 

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I didn't invent it myself, just watched a video 1 year ago :p Forums exist for that
 

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For anyone wandering across this thread, be aware that even if you use a precision export bus on stack mode, the progress bar for making a Singularity in the AE Condenser will take quite some time before it even gets to the first bar. I didn't think I was doing it correctly, but this was the issue - lack of patience. :) Also note, the Condenser will actually take (as input) an ME drive, which is very convenient and user-friendly indeed. Since I'm using MFR deep storage for my bulk items instead of ME drives, I decided to just slap an export bus onto the condenser and wait it out. Seems like it's gonna be about 15 minutes, roughly. I'm okay with that, plenty else to do in the meantime.

P.S. The price of a Storage Cluster (the "guts" of a 64K drive) to make one Singularity (and I think I'll need one at both ends?) is pretty steep for these things, but since Monster has Quantum bees... I'm not worried. :)
 
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For anyone wandering across this thread, be aware that even if you use a precision export bus on stack mode, the progress bar for making a Singularity in the AE Condenser will take quite some time before it even gets to the first bar. I didn't think I was doing it correctly, but this was the issue - lack of patience. :) Also note, the Condenser will actually take (as input) an ME drive, which is very convenient and user-friendly indeed. Since I'm using MFR deep storage for my bulk items instead of ME drives, I decided to just slap an export bus onto the condenser and wait it out. Seems like it's gonna be about 10 minutes, roughly. I'm okay with that, plenty else to do in the meantime.

Slap a few more buses on there, it'll go faster.
 

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Yeah, it's a lot of items for a Singularity, but it's well worth it. My advice, use a Tiny TNT or a blastproof room for creating one. Less damage that way.

I can't tell you how glad I am that a mod developer has seen fit to do something like this (meaning, giving us a way to use those huge useless stacks of stuff). I haven't felt this giddy since back in the "good old days" of Gregtech in Ultimate pack. (oh god, I hope that doesn't start a war lol) I just think Minecraft needs more "end game goals" type of things... items that take almost insurmountable stuff to make and achieve, so we always have something to work towards. I'm not really so much of a creative builder, I'm more of a worker, I like to be working towards stuff instead of just free-form creating.
 
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Another helpful tip for anyone looking for info on these new AE devices... the Storage Cluster doesn't get used up when a Singularity is made! It stays in the Condenser and if the finished Singularity is removed, a new Singularity will begin constuction immediately. And three export busses has cut the crafting time down to less than 5 mins per Singularity.

Also... one Singularity plus one Ender Pearl Dust, when blown up with tiny TNT, resulted in TWO "Quantum Entangled Singularities"... one for each end of the network connection. FYI. It all makes sense now that my slow brain has thought about it a bit. They only stack in two's (because the two singularities are entangled, duh). lol
 
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Another helpful tip for anyone looking for info on these new AE devices... the Storage Cluster doesn't get used up when a Singularity is made! It stays in the Condenser and if the finished Singularity is removed, a new Singularity will begin constuction immediately. And three export busses has cut the crafting time down to less than 5 mins per Singularity.

Also... one Singularity plus one Ender Pearl Dust, when blown up with tiny TNT, resulted in TWO "Quantum Entangled Singularities"... one for each end of the network connection. FYI. It all makes sense now that my slow brain has thought about it a bit. They only stack in two's (because the two singularities are entangled, duh). lol

Quantum networks have been around for a while now FYI. Spatial Storage is the new thing in AE. ;)
 

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Well, I've never been known for being "cutting-edge". :) It took me almost two years before I gave in and decided to try out that game called Minecraft that everybody seemed to be having fun with... lol

ME Quantum Network Bridge up and running and working as advertised. Much obliged for the assistance! This is truly a game-changer for my world, I always felt tethered to base. Now I just need to figure out how to make AE and alvearies interact, never done it before, but that should be a simple matter I'm sure.

Another tip/advice - when making the distant network, you don't need an ME Controller, it's not two networks tied together, the Quantum Network Bridge literally functions as a very long ME cable back to base. Just power both ends (standard TE Tesseract with RF power for me) and away you go.
 
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