Request So, I had an Idea

[Annoy4nce647]

I wanted to make a server where every 2 weeks, everything on the server is reset. EXCEPT for people's inventories, giving an extra challenge, and making people push for AE, because... lots of inventory, one item. And, it would also encourage people to be active on the server more, because if you're gone too long, all your progress is lost.

However, there was an issue, and by an issue, I mean three so,

Numero Uno, I can't host a server for extended periods of time
Numero Dos, I can't pay for a server hosted by someone else
Numero Tres, I live in Australia, so many people would have connection issues

So, if anyone would like to create this type of server, go ahead, but make sure you invite me

 

[Annoy4nce647]

wow, noone?

 

[jordsta95]

You are asking people to host a server for you, based on your terms... I would actually have been more surprised if someone had said "Yeah, I'll do that for you"

It would also not work, because unless the world is exactly the same (i.e. you have World1 and just keep removing the region data) you will have constant ID changes, which means that the stuff in your ME drives will change.

 

[rhn]

I guess everyone is different, but personally I can see absolutely no motivation to play on such a server. What on earth should I do with tons of stuff in my inventory if everything I ever build and invest time and effort in gets torn down every couple weeks? Do people really play Minecraft with the sole motivation of gathering XX diamonds?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Each player has an RFTools dimension where all personal building is done. But you have to pay more every single week to keep it (lets say it doubles). If you don't manage to pay enough in resources (lets say EMC points because EE is back)your dimension resets and you respawn with your inventory at server spawn.

That seems better but I have to agree with rhn here, I certainly wouldn't play but I would probably watch it. Could be quite good fun, if the "payment" is randomised each week so the person would have to(for example) make a billion honey combs one week and a million cinnabar the next. Gets people to build interesting and crazy setups to pay their rent.

 

[Inaeo]

That seems better but I have to agree with rhn here, I certainly wouldn't play but I would probably watch it. Could be quite good fun, if the "payment" is randomised each week so the person would have to(for example) make a billion honey combs one week and a million cinnabar the next. Gets people to build interesting and crazy setups to pay their rent.

That would be a tech race, with a two week cutoff. I'm not sure I have the focus, but it would be fun to try out for a bit. The puzzle of engineering a system, gathering the resources, building it, and beating the clock could be interesting.

I do agree that anything I built in such a world would be pure chaotic function. No time for pretty. It all gets burnt down anyway.

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

That would be a tech race, with a two week cutoff. I'm not sure I have the focus, but it would be fun to try out for a bit. The puzzle of engineering a system, gathering the resources, building it, and beating the clock could be interesting.

I do agree that anything I built in such a world would be pure chaotic function. No time for pretty. It all gets burnt down anyway.

Well the first day they get the challenge it'll be a rush to get the setup going, then while it's churning away they've got time to actually keep playing and building in their age.

HOWEVER for a casual player this will probably not work, if they go off on holiday for a week and don't pay they will rage quit but for a professional youtube series it sounds lots of fun

 

[malicious_bloke]

Two weeks?

I could just about get an automated TNT factory running in that time.

Several cycles of build and reset later i'd have a vast arsenal of explosives and all the lulz the server could handle...

 

[Inaeo]

Possibly a Last Man Building Challenge? Don't pay your rent and you get greylisted until there is a winner. It would be a fun watch.

 

[malicious_bloke]

I was thinking more battle royale with TNT.

An area in which I have interests...

 

[Inaeo]

If it was PvP based, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Destroying someone's base stops them from paying the rent. As long as you can still pay up, good game.

 

[malicious_bloke]

If it was PvP based, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Destroying someone's base stops them from paying the rent. As long as you can still pay up, good game.

Or hold them to ransom for tribute using overwhelming firepower from interdimensional artillery.

Once they see the portals beginning to appear near their base, they know their time has come...

 

[Type1Ninja]

Remind me never to play with you. XD
The only variation on this I would like is some kind of tech-race, where perhaps every player is spawned in and given so-and-so much of every type of ore/resource, but no tools or infrastructure. Their challenge is then to automate whatever task in a given timeframe. Pure engineering - no manual labor.

 

[Inaeo]

This would be a race to set up a system the fastest. I like having options to do things in new and unique ways. This requires latitude to go in many different directions with a build, but starting with a set of resources would push people to things a set way.

 

[Type1Ninja]

This would be a race to set up a system the fastest. I like having options to do things in new and unique ways. This requires latitude to go in many different directions with a build, but starting with a set of resources would push people to things a set way.

True. You could always add set conditions, like "don't use Steve's Factory Manager" or "No Thermal Expansion Ducts" or other challenges. I disagree with the set of resources pushing you a specific way; ideally, it would be adequate amounts of the base resources from most mods, so that you can go in any direction.

 

[Inaeo]

True. You could always add set conditions, like "don't use Steve's Factory Manager" or "No Thermal Expansion Ducts" or other challenges. I disagree with the set of resources pushing you a specific way; ideally, it would be adequate amounts of the base resources from most mods, so that you can go in any direction.

At that rate, I'd still prefer people to acquire the resources themselves. You would see varying approaches there too, as I might set up a turtle quarry early for a slower automated mining method, while others would focus on rushing a quarry for the same needs. Turtle is slower, but can run sooner on just coal/charcoal. The quarry is much faster, but more expensive and needs a power grid of some kind.

Forcing everyone to find the materials might provide a fun way to incorporate a PvP element. Sabotaging someone's quarry (or changing the code on their ender chest) would get you a bunch of resources, but you might lose time while looking for it. Risk v reward. A game within the game (within the game).

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

True. You could always add set conditions, like "don't use Steve's Factory Manager" or "No Thermal Expansion Ducts" or other challenges. I disagree with the set of resources pushing you a specific way; ideally, it would be adequate amounts of the base resources from most mods, so that you can go in any direction.

The point I was trying to get across was this:

Midnight Sunday you get your challenge, randomized so you have no idea what it could be, tailored to how long you've been playing(so no one will get submit 1000 diamonds week one for example). The shear bulk of items you have to turn in will force you to come up with a clever way to automate it. Once set up it can chug away the rest of the week while you carry on building in your own age.
Each week will be a completely different challenge with hopefully a completely different mod, enderium one week, honey the next, life essence the next.
Any and all PvP in ONLY the overworld should be allowed, the point of my idea is to keep people coming back and building every week, a rage quit cos someone nuked their base isn't ideal. Separate RFtools dimensions for bases would be great here as if someone does be a dick you can just restore the entire age from backup. This will also discourage someone who has completed one of the challenges from giving the system/resources to another person.
RFTools/mystcraft dimensions(other than starter worlds) would obviously have to be blocked somehow.
There could be 2 difficulties for this, hardcore where your age is deleted immediately on non payment and less-hardcore where you get a few passes on the rent before deletion.

 

[Inaeo]

If you had them in RFTools dimensions, you could whitelist each dimension (@McJty I'm not mistaken here, right?). This would also allow you to deny access without deleting the age if they missed the rent, as all you would have to do is cut the power and the age would become less than hospitable (up to and including death).

It might be a fun twist to, that if you miss the rent, the age stops being powered until you pay, but you respawn in the overworld, so you can continue to gather and build toward that. You would Benin the PvP overworld, so it comes with more risk, but unless a bunch of people miss rent in the same week, your interaction would be limited still. In the meantime, all your hard work is still protected from briefing, but in stasis (chunkloading rules on a per server basis?) until you managed to pony up (at which point, your dimension gets power turned back on)..

What happens then if I miss my rent (say go on vacation) for two weeks and then return? Do I owe just the rent I was working on at the time? When I pay that, am I working on the same rent as everyone else, or the next in a line of items due (ala HQM style turn ins)?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

If you had them in RFTools dimensions, you could whitelist each dimension (@McJty I'm not mistaken here, right?). This would also allow you to deny access without deleting the age if they missed the rent, as all you would have to do is cut the power and the age would become less than hospitable (up to and including death).

It might be a fun twist to, that if you miss the rent, the age stops being powered until you pay, but you respawn in the overworld, so you can continue to gather and build toward that. You would Benin the PvP overworld, so it comes with more risk, but unless a bunch of people miss rent in the same week, your interaction would be limited still. In the meantime, all your hard work is still protected from briefing, but in stasis (chunkloading rules on a per server basis?) until you managed to pony up (at which point, your dimension gets power turned back on)..

What happens then if I miss my rent (say go on vacation) for two weeks and then return? Do I owe just the rent I was working on at the time? When I pay that, am I working on the same rent as everyone else, or the next in a line of items due (ala HQM style turn ins)?

I like that... You get a week of your age just switched off so you can catch up, after that it'll be deleted. Could also get interesting if people then start building their contraptions in the overworld if they're not going to make rent and run the risk of sabotage.

The softcore mode I was speaking about would be that you get to skip rent a couple of times if you don't play for a while. But advance warning would be required. The point of this in my mind is to get people to play, there's no point in it if the admin just ignores the rent requirement. I would say if you ask for a skip, you get the next tier of challenge you would've gotten rather than the tier everyone else is on.

 

[Type1Ninja]

I like that... You get a week of your age just switched off so you can catch up, after that it'll be deleted. Could also get interesting if people then start building their contraptions in the overworld if they're not going to make rent and run the risk of sabotage.

The softcore mode I was speaking about would be that you get to skip rent a couple of times if you don't play for a while. But advance warning would be required. The point of this in my mind is to get people to play, there's no point in it if the admin just ignores the rent requirement. I would say if you ask for a skip, you get the next tier of challenge you would've gotten rather than the tier everyone else is on.

I guess I would prefer that your age is never deleted and that "paying what you missed" would just always be a (reasonably large) flat price, whether it's been a couple seconds or a couple months. Also, we're talking about in-game items here, not real money, right?