Small rant. :)

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Shaverman5000

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I was a server owner since Minecraft 1.3 Beta. Over 2 years, and I've seen a lot of people come to, and from. I don't know if FTB was around back then... I ran a Bukkit server for the longest time. It was originally just a couple of friends and family, then I decided to become a public host, taking on responsibilities of other's creations. Our server population went from 12, to 40, to 50 some. (Yeah it was whitelisted) It was epic, because I didn't have moderators and all that to manage. I had a website, (Www.shavercraft.com) and took care of issues at 6am every morning. It was a lot of fun... Then, after 1.2.4, there was a large uprising of trolls, hackers, etc. After putting up, weeding through the trolls with the players that actually wanted to play, it just came to a head. The community I pushed so hard to build began falling apart. (I.E. Boredom, Adventure maps, Hunger games, etc). I know, things don't last forever.

So I shut down buikkit, and went to FTB in November. And I started hosting public for that too. I'm sad to say, the majority of people that came through did not make me happy one bit. It felt more like a job to upkeep/handle everyone's crying and complaining. For example, GregTech, the Portal Gun (I had the fuel turned on, due to spam of the portals) and a ton of other stuff. Long story short, with the "Expert server owners" coming on the server, taking members to host a more "Secure" server (Meaning no "Risk" of map restarts or world corruptions, lol. I even went out of my way, and each update, I'd have everyone post their home coords and anything special in the world, use MCEDIT and cut out squares in the world and have it re-generate. And no, the world didn't look jacked up.), I just got fed up with how people are now. Everyone, instead of researching the answer, they want the answers laid to them in a formal, large explanation. Saying "Research it yourself" or "Go to www.ftbwiki.com" is like a punch to their ego, or it's like "OMG you're a jerk. I'm going to ask someone to answer it for me...". or the best one I've heard, "I've looked everywhere, youtube, wiki, google/Bing and it doesn't work. Can you help me?" I don't understand the community anymore. Here recently, I closed off my public server, and it's only private to a couple friends now... And I'll never go public again. Ever.

*******OPINION COMING!! ********
I feel the community of MC has changed from a year ago. :\ I used to login to a server full of awesome people, and have just an amazing time... Here it is a year later, and if you're staff, you're either answering questions, or you get avoided like the plague. It's like in high school/college/work, you have your "Clicks". It's expected, but eh... Maybe I just expect too much. One thing that annoyed me the most is previous server owners. Oh my goodness they would annoy me the most... Because the questions would never end. When I'd login, in 5 minutes I'd get asked like 10 questions. Even when I had a rule, if you had questions put them on the website, I'd still get bombarded with questions in the game. Instead of playing the game, I'd play "100 questions" Then if I said "Just go to the website and post it there, I'll answer it later" I got looked upon as a douche, and they'd scheme behind my back to start their own server because I wasn't as "Interactive". I dunno. The community has definitely changed though since 2011. I don't know if it's because I'm 27, or the main pop of MC is kids (Attitudes included...), or the game and all is just getting old... I haven't lost interest in the game at all, not one bit... But I have given up trying to be that starlight server host.

Sorry, rant over. Have a great evening Minecrafters, Feed the beasters, server owners, and formers, lol.
 
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I understand the feeling you have, and I'll agree to the death that you've got every right to voice it, are you feeling better for having shared it?

Now, you want to hear what I think the root cause might be?

Think about what the FTB pack was for way back when... a massive and horrible challenge, that you expected to solve by figuring it out. Those are the sort of people who, if given a wiki, or a hint, will do the best to solve the original problem themselves. All you have to do there is make sure they've not found one of the "wrong" (lag producing) solutions to whatever problem they had.

Now we're just another modpack, without the barrier to entry that existed once upon a time. People joining are not required to have any concept of wanting to solve anything. Further, launcher. One click. That don't require anybody to be too smart.
 

Chrissy

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I hosted a 5 player server on my home computer and it worked well, I had greif control and a small community, But i just had to stop hosting because of life stuff that meant i couldn't operate it
 

mathjazz

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Those are several of the problems I worried about while getting my servers running. I have never gone public, always just people I know. I do want to open the worlds to show other people, and maybe let others on I do not know, but I worry about griefing and mean people. Maybe if there were a way to give a person access to see the world, but not touch anything, I could allow people to see the server before I let them play on it for real.
 

Shaverman5000

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I hosted a 5 player server on my home computer and it worked well, I had greif control and a small community, But i just had to stop hosting because of life stuff that meant i couldn't operate it



I just have RL friends now. I gave up :\
 

GPuzzle

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Let me tell you what happened:
People got fed up with 12 year old kids who didn't knew shit.
If you want a good server... It ultimately boils down to how nice people are.
Don't go in a server full of people and expect it to be 100% asshole free.
Small servers are usually the way to go.
 

Shaverman5000

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Let me tell you what happened:
People got fed up with 12 year old kids who didn't knew shit.
If you want a good server... It ultimately boils down to how nice people are.
Don't go in a server full of people and expect it to be 100% asshole free.
Small servers are usually the way to go.



Thats why I only let RL friends and friends of friends come in now. And peeps that are just plain awesome. lol[DOUBLEPOST=1370549355][/DOUBLEPOST]
Thats why I only let RL friends and friends of friends come in now. And peeps that are just plain awesome. lol

Let me tell you what happened:
People got fed up with 12 year old kids who didn't knew shit.
If you want a good server... It ultimately boils down to how nice people are.
Don't go in a server full of people and expect it to be 100% asshole free.
Small servers are usually the way to go.

We also had an age limit. Sadly it was mainly peeps 18 +