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Austin Kennedy

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Hello my name is Sucubussy.

I have played on many servers of all variety. I have hosted my own and they all have been successful. What i am looking for is a reliable host for a server. Someone that can either host one from their PC or something along those lines. Money is tight for me so i will be unable to pay in any way BUT we/us will work as a team to build a great server. My plans are to have some sort of Technic server ( or Feed The Beast ). The server i personally want is the Treeit server hosted by Technic.I myself am 18. Like i said previously i have worked with servers. Skype or Teamspeak work for me when communication is needed. Of course are your discretion this can be changed. The roles i plan on playing are:

Builder/Admin
I will take care of the promotion of the server
I can also give plugin support because i have worked with many plugins
Whatever is needed in regards to the server

Yourself/Selves can obviously do as you please.

If you are interested In starting a server and figure a little extra help could be needed im am very happy to be on your team.

tl;dr I want to help host a server. No money. need someone to assist in this.

Thanks

Austin
 

TheDJParadox

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Just a little tip: People don't host free servers, unless they have gone mad.
Probably because they are paying for a random-er to reap the benefits.
I personally think you need to try and find some sort of employment and pay for one yourself, and eventually the donations will allow it to pay for its self. Sort of like an investment.
 

MrBrunty

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From personal experience as a server owner, a decently run server is self sufficient monetarily speaking, donations allow for the average person to spend hundreds of $ on a server with no personal expenditure. My advice, rent a cheapish server and work your way up. It would be much better for you in the long run.
 

Harvest88

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Guys it all done and over with and yea Creeperhost have a stupid TOS that "throttles" your support based on your darn budget. :( But wait there more with GSPs idiots, their CPUs are not 'high end" even if they say so (fragnet's false advertising anyone?:mad:) I am really thankful of him and his friend of doing this for our community. Finally a CPU that we can brag about because of that rig! (it's takes E3 1270v3s out the water!) :) Ahh putting invoices behind bars is the way fun should be. NOT on budget..:(
 

TheDJParadox

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Having started with creeper host I would have to disagree, I found there service to be well below average, you could try Astral Game servers I found them to be a lot better, and still very competitively priced

Can I ask you what sort of issues you were having with creeperhost, as the service I've had has been nothing but immaculate so far.
 

Harvest88

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It look like a bad business (I heard customers don't get good support/server) and I really against their stupid TOS that throttles the support you get based on how much you paid them.. :(
 

TheDJParadox

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I get brilliant support myself, without even paying for extra support. The support is not throttled. It's just you pay more if you want them to do it ALL for you, which 99% of companies do anyways.
 

MrBrunty

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Can I ask you what sort of issues you were having with creeperhost, as the service I've had has been nothing but immaculate so far.

When I upgraded to a dedicated server, I asked them to do the data transfer for me as at the time I was new to ssh, and didn't really feel up to transferring via a local ftp download and upload. I gave them permission to stop my server when they got around to it in my message and made it extremely clear that it would be running. So they did the transfer without stopping the server, which made the world file corrupt. And i mean seriously corrupt. Beyond repair, and then instead of leaving it alone proceeded to delete all data off of the original server including the backups, making it so I couldn't just rollback to the last backup.

I''m sure this is not a common thing to happen to people, and I expect it was an oversight, but the attitude I got afterwards when I made a complaint due to the inevitable map reset was ridiculous. To then continue, I eventually got back up and running, when a 'HDD Malfunction' lead to all my data being reset again 2 weeks later. During which time I had next to 0% uptime. Then to cap it off, they blamed me for the error when I demanded a refund for the time lost saying it was due to the manner in which I treated the server despite previously admitting that it was on their end.

Finally, I had an issue the next week (can't remember what) waited 24 hours for their customer support to reply, got fed up and had someone on my server create an account and submit a ticket to the same department I had, concerning a purchase. His ticket was replied to inside of 5 minutes by Luke H (who was the head of all support departments) I understand and respect their want to entice new customers in, but at the same time feel that a paying customer, particularly one who at the time was paying for the bonus support, deserved at least to be responded to inside of 24 hours.

I may well be over reacting to what was done, and I may well even be a rare case, but from what I learnt with creeper host, is that they care and deliver great support for the first month and then no longer care. My theory behind it being that after a month most servers become fairly self sustaining and no longer require the support new servers do. Therefore customers never need support and so 90% will still feel they're getting the great service they got in the first month, they're just not using it.
 

TheDJParadox

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To be honest, I see your point and totally agree that it would not be worth staying with a hosting company that has given you this sort of experience. Although my experience has been very good with CreeperHost, I've never had any friends with them to see the other side. Sorry to hear that you had such a bad thing going with them and I hope that you're going alright with the new host.
 

Harvest88

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I get brilliant support myself, without even paying for extra support. The support is not throttled. It's just you pay more if you want them to do it ALL for you, which 99% of companies do anyways.

So if they do what 99% companies do then what's the POINT in PAYING for it?? Oh and I just rolled out 8 MAX sized BC quarries on his rig and the server is still running like butter! (under 1.5GB and 5% CPU usage idling with all 8 quarries running right now)
 

TheDJParadox

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They do what 99% of other companies do as a BASIC package, then you pay ontop if you want them to do everything else for you that you don't really need. You've got to remember that a small company that is running ~4,000 servers with around 5-6 employees can't go around setting up a plugin package for every single person that gets a server. It just isn't physically possible. If anything, you are paying extra support for the overtime that is needed to PROVIDE the extra support. Also, 8 full quarries is nothing, I've got a last-gen dedi that runs those too... It depends on the amount of players and the amount of active chunks on the server that really tests the performance. As having 8 quarries next to each other with a couple of people on the server really isn't taxing on the machine (and it shouldn't be.)[DOUBLEPOST=1389306258][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh yeah, and I'm saying that 99% of companies make you PAY for the added support. Not just give it to you. You must be mad if you think that companies are doing this for free...[DOUBLEPOST=1389306371][/DOUBLEPOST]Anyways, the argument isn't going anywhere, so I'll bring it to a stop. I'm off this post unless anything more meaningful comes of it. As there's no sense in us going around in circles. I like CreeperHost, you don't. That's fair enough... You're entitled to your opinion and so am I. We'll agree to disagree.
 

Harvest88

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Just putting my two cents on providing support. You can either care and do the right thing and supply the support the customer needs or you can throttles it and make us pay for the extra support. Took me forever to find a company that at least get my concept but their CPU wasn't doing it for me (20-25% idling and they were X5 at 3.6ghz).

Oh and with 6 players that rig's CPU is at 10% at the worst I seen constantly at so it's obliviously eat that X5 and also a host said that their 1270v2s are not that much more performance boosting than the X5.
 

MrBrunty

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I've gotta side with paradox here, if you think 8 full size quarries next to each other is intense for server resources, then you obviously know little to nothing about server management. With Astral I reached 50+ people online all doing there shiz, had a LOT of chunk loaders and I never had any tps or lag issues.

Ram is used by the amount of chunks loaded, on vanilla mc a player will use approximately 100mb, in FTB you use between double and triple in order to accommodate for the extra data stored in machinery BUT the closer people are the lower this value gets per player as the same chunks are being loaded by both.

In short your arguement is based on a low usage, at low usage servers respond very differently to how they do when your asking more of them.
 

Harvest88

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Okay then why are servers sometime are so annoying with chunkloaders and quarries rules if it not supposed to not be a resource problem?
 

HaoSs

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they are serious problems, but 8 quarry is not much, you can end up with 40-50 quarrys .
also if you don't limit chunkloading what stops the player from putting them all over the world, for nothing ,eating your ram to keep random chunk on? To test your server. Don't think like an admin, Think like a griefer. DEOP yourself and try to grief it :)

I work with modded servers for about two year now, and i found out that the main performance problem was in 95% of cases not the RAM , but the CPU.
 

Harvest88

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I work with modded servers for about two year now, and i found out that the main performance problem was in 95% of cases not the RAM , but the CPU.
Good thing this rig is equipped with a CPU that is about 4x the power of the Intel Xeon X5687 @ 3.60GHz (I was on it when I had the paid hosting and it was idling at 20-25% and now the CPU is JUST hitting the 5-6% idling)

As for random chunk loading, instead of throttling the community instead I get rid of the troublemaker (which there were just one in my 5 months of hosting trying to find a host that would works for me)
 

HaoSs

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thats nice. i had a 30 slot server with 4 gb of ram on a i7 (no idea what model ) after 4 months using same pregenerated world, CPU got to 110% - 200% usage .ram did not go pass 3gb most of the time :) and it was lagging like hell . thats the most time i managed to get from a world. ( also i had separated world for quarys , and reseted the end nether and the quary world 3 times )

this is on a normal server with mcpc and some plugins. nothing fancy ( i say this because using tickthreading back when ultimate was at power i had the best performance, old map, server full. 20 tps no stress , but that's old news )

bottom line is: when you go for a host. procesor>>>ram,sdd,costumer support, ur better off cutting some slots down for +300mhz CPU power then get a host for same money with more ram(slots)and less CPU

or. you can wait for that perfect world where forge and mcpc get together and make a baby under the official mojang mod api.
 
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