[Rotarycraft] Shaft power through nether portal

[rizzy]

Hiya everyone!

I've been trying to get Rotarycraft shaft power through a nether portal, which I thought was possible. I haven't been able to find much documentation on it. I'm using 25z in a highly modified monster, but nothing that should conflict. Two things I've read :

1. A recent change in 25d made the shaft power follow the nether 8:1 scaling
2. The shaft must 'visually' pass through the portal frame, as in be INSIDE the portal. Which I can't make happen, or I'm not understanding what this means.

It seems to me that if it follows the 8:1 rule, when you make a portal in the overworld, the one that appears in the nether as a result would be in the right location. Is that correct? Can anyone explain how you would pass the shaft into the portal frame itself? I can't get this to happen without breaking the portal, which then won't 'relight' as long as the shaft is there.

Thanks for any responses

 

[Omegatron]

I don't think the nether portal in the nether always appears at exactly the corresponding coordinates (because those might be blocked). Check the coordinates of both ends to make sure.

 

[rizzy]

I don't think the nether portal in the nether always appears at exactly the corresponding coordinates (because those might be blocked). Check the coordinates of both ends to make sure.

Okay, I double checked my coordinates. it was off by a couple, and they weren't oriented along the same axis, after fixing that though still nothing

Overworld Coordinates 536, 65, 105-106
Nether Coordinates 67, 65, 13-14

 

[midi_sec]

I thought remembered something about the shaft power transfer not following the 8:1 rule.

quick google yields this:
http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/thr...wer-through-nether-portals.47233/#post-686813

 

[rizzy]

I thought remembered something about the shaft power transfer not following the 8:1 rule.

quick google yields this:
http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/thr...wer-through-nether-portals.47233/#post-686813

I think it has changed.

https://sites.google.com/site/reikasminecraft/changelogs

V25d:

• RotaryCraft: Portal shafts now obey Nether 8:1 scaling

 

[midi_sec]

I think it has changed.

https://sites.google.com/site/reikasminecraft/changelogs

V25d:

• RotaryCraft: Portal shafts now obey Nether 8:1 scaling

Hmm, interesting. Not sure then. I admit I haven't played with it since 24.

 

[rizzy]

@Reika In a similar thread (here http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/rotarycraft-transporting-power-through-nether-portals.47233/) you mention that you have to

You need to place a shaft block inside the portal as well such that the shaft visually extends into the portal block.

Also, versions 20-24 have a bug where this shaft cannot be created.

Is this functionality still broken in 25z? Can you post a screenshot of how the shaft looks while inside the portal block, because I'm not able to make that happen.

 

[Reika]

@Reika In a similar thread (here http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/rotarycraft-transporting-power-through-nether-portals.47233/) you mention that you have to



Is this functionality still broken in 25z? Can you post a screenshot of how the shaft looks while inside the portal block, because I'm not able to make that happen.

I do not currently have time to do so. Can someone else demonstrate? I can confirm it works in v25.

 

[rizzy]

@Pyure I've seen you posting in most of the RoC threads. Any chance you have a screenshot of this in action?

 

[Demosthenex]

I intend to try it out soon, but I have no screenshots.

I would encourage you to try it out.

Looking at the source only the x and z coordinate are affected, and they should be on a coordinate evenly divisible by 8. There doesn't seem to be an integer rounding, so make sure you match exactly.

https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/Rot.../Transmission/TileEntityPortalShaft.java#L115

 

[rizzy]

I intend to try it out soon, but I have no screenshots.

I would encourage you to try it out.

Looking at the source only the x and z coordinate are affected, and they should be on a coordinate evenly divisible by 8. There doesn't seem to be an integer rounding, so make sure you match exactly.

https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/Rot.../Transmission/TileEntityPortalShaft.java#L115

I'll try repositioning directly on multiples of 8, just in case.

 

[Reika]

I intend to try it out soon, but I have no screenshots.

I would encourage you to try it out.

Looking at the source only the x and z coordinate are affected, and they should be on a coordinate evenly divisible by 8. There doesn't seem to be an integer rounding, so make sure you match exactly.

https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/Rot.../Transmission/TileEntityPortalShaft.java#L115

Integer rounding should be in effect automatically.

 

[Pyure]

@Pyure I've seen you posting in most of the RoC threads. Any chance you have a screenshot of this in action?

Sorry friend, I've never done it.

 

[Demosthenex]

Integer rounding should be in effect automatically.

I don't know java, so I didn't know that is implied. However it would still make sense to do exact coordinates to avoid rounding errors.

 

[rizzy]

Exact coordinates didn't seem to be my problem. I'll keep poking at it.

 

[rizzy]

I finally got it working! \o/

In the screenshot you can see where my crosshairs are, that's where i had to SHIFT RIGHT CLICK with another shaft in my hand. It did not actually place the shaft I was holding, but clicking there caused the shaft that was already on the other side of the purple portal block to extend past the mount unit and into the purple portal block. The important thing is that I had to shift right click on the obsidian block to the side of the portal block, NOT the portal block itself. The obsidian block under it didn't seem to work either, only the one beside it.

 

[Reika]

The obsidian block under it didn't seem to work either, only the one beside it.

The reason for that may be that you were looking down too steeply, placing the "would-be" shaft facing upwards.

 

[Omega Haxors]

V1f doesn't seem to allow me to do this try as I might. I'm not sure if i'm doing it wrong or if it's just broken.

I went to 1000x 1000z in the overworld and than did the math to determine that I had to put the shaft at 125x 125z. I proceed to put shafts in all of the portal blocks that were made and still nothing. It doesn't even appear to go into the portal. Do I need to do something such as piston the shaft into the portal for it to transmit? Do I just need to place it in the right spot? I'm not even sure if it's working or not so I might just be wasting my time banging my head over it.

I've watched all your videos and threads and I still have no clue as to what i'm doing wrong or if the feature even works or not in this version.

EDIT: I started brute forcing portals and eventually got to one that attached. The question now is where...

Honestly it would be a much better system to tie the co-ords of the 2 portal blocks and re-calculate if the link gets broken. That way you could do painless ports for the other types of portals using the same system rather than having to redo it.

For example:

Player places shaft unit next to portal. The shaft unit gives the portal ahead of it custom data to check it's other end first if it exists, and if it does, than create a shaft link. On the other end will do the same to confirm that the link exists and if it does than you can put shaft units through it. You could also add chunk loading properties to these special portal blocks to prevent the other issue: dependence on chunk loaders.

 

[Reika]

...The shaft unit gives the portal ahead of it custom data...

This is not possible.

 

[Omega Haxors]

Couldn't you just add the data only within your mod itself?

You could add a hash to the block at that area and check for block updates. If any blocks within the hash gets updated than modify the data to fit. You don't need to modify the block itself as the whole system would be done through the mod.

For example you place down a shaft and it detects a portal at it's output side, so it takes the portal block it's facing and finds it's destination, possibly by sending a dummy entity through, and the location of both. Then it saves the co-ords to a table where data can be modified freely.

Whenever you need to do something to the portal blocks in question you just get them from your hash, update the data to the blocks at those coordinates and finally double-check to make sure nothing went wrong.

I suppose a special rotarycraft portal block or being able to use the angular transducer on a portal shaft to reveal the target location would also work too.