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Azzanine

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There's also a different route you can take if you have sugarcane available:
Blast Furnace -> Worktable -> DC Engine -> Fermenter -> Gasoline Engine -> Grinder

That's one block more to craft, but it eschews the worm gear, which you will never use again. It also makes the grinder quite a bit faster, since you don't have us use any form of transmission. 18 seconds per item, as opposed to >30 for steam engine with worm gear, or 24 for steam engine with 4:1 gearbox. Ethanol crystals are a renewable fuel source, and gasoline engines are easy to use and suited for a large number of machines.

By contrast, steam engines are much weaker, require you to either have nether access or build a cooling fin (which you really should have mentioned) unless you fancy a violent explosion, require an extra dc engine + pump + plumbing for hands-off operation, cannot be throttled, cannot be redstone controlled, and make a far more aggravating sound (that in contrast to other engines cannot be muffled) :p

I'm using gasoline engines all over the place, often on ECUs. My base currently has one gas turbine (intermittently producing RF for a Buildcraft refinery, a Forestry ethanol production line and a small AE system), one fuel powered engine (running the extractor), one dc engine (running a pump), and four five gasoline engines (running grinder, friction heated furnace, fuel enhancer, liquid distillery + liquid crystallizer, Buildcraft oil pump). Currently pondering a set of 4 gasoline engines for a boring machine, which may or may not be fast enough for my humble needs once properly enchanted. I'll be finding that out once I try it.
Seems like a viable starting point, but ethanol does require a decent biome and infrastructure or a great stockpile of sugar, dirt and plant matter which can be the cane you use for sugar.
But all that stuff is very doable and using steam engines efficiently requires a piece of netherack where as the other options are using lava and cooling fins or sitting there with a flint and steel lighting logs on fire.
 

Fyuiy

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How do I input temperature into the Blast Furnace to make HSLA steel?

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How do I input temperature into the Blast Furnace to make HSLA steel?

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I believe the HLSA steel recipe is fully documented int he hand book. Last I checked you just needed the three ingredients (coal, sand, gunpowder I believe?) and iron in the 3x3 grid.
 

Vaeliorin

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It also has to be at a certain temperature (though I don't recall specifically what temperature.)

Anyway, I've always just put a block of lava underneath it, and that works fine, assuming it doesn't burn your house down.
 
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Omicron

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Yeah, that's the general gist. Blast furnace on top of lava (no cooling fin required here). Inside, first thing you do, is put a stack of 63 coal into the 3x3 center grid. Why 63? Because all 9 slots are processed at the same time, so spreading those 63 out into 7x9 will make the process go 9 times as fast as if you kept it a single stack. And while it's only convenience for processing coal, you should keep this in mind for processing iron, because you get increasing output bonus chances the more slots you fill concurrently. In practice, always process multiples of 9, and spread them out over all available slots.

If it doesn't start processing immediately, that's because the temperature hasn't risen to where it needs to be. Give it time.

Now, the coal will process into coke (not compatible or interchangable with Railcraft coke). Take this coke and put it into the middle slot of the left side row of three slots. In the top slot above it, put some sand - a few pieces is enough, I've made over a thousand HSLA steel at this point and consumed zero pieces of sand. In the bottom slot below the coke, place some gunpowder.

Now you are ready to turn iron into HSLA steel.
 

Azzanine

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Yeah, that's the general gist. Blast furnace on top of lava (no cooling fin required here). Inside, first thing you do, is put a stack of 63 coal into the 3x3 center grid. Why 63? Because all 9 slots are processed at the same time, so spreading those 63 out into 7x9 will make the process go 9 times as fast as if you kept it a single stack. And while it's only convenience for processing coal, you should keep this in mind for processing iron, because you get increasing output bonus chances the more slots you fill concurrently. In practice, always process multiples of 9, and spread them out over all available slots.

If it doesn't start processing immediately, that's because the temperature hasn't risen to where it needs to be. Give it time.

Now, the coal will process into coke (not compatible or interchangable with Railcraft coke). Take this coke and put it into the middle slot of the left side row of three slots. In the top slot above it, put some sand - a few pieces is enough, I've made over a thousand HSLA steel at this point and consumed zero pieces of sand. In the bottom slot below the coke, place some gunpowder.

Now you are ready to turn iron into HSLA steel.
Also i'm under the impression that you get a better bonus if you use a full stack of gunpowder. Of course you only need one but when you put in more it will sometimes eat one and I assume give you more bonus steel. At least I think that's what's happening.
 

Fyuiy

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Alright, so I made a gasoline engine and some ethanol to power the grinder, first time a made a gas turbine by accident. So I have a canola farm with golems and some lube. So what should I do next? I was planning on making a bedrock breaker, my friends had a setup using RF.
Edit: I made a bedrock breaker
 

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Alright, so I made a gasoline engine and some ethanol to power the grinder, first time a made a gas turbine by accident. So I have a canola farm with golems and some lube. So what should I do next? I was planning on making a bedrock breaker, my friends had a setup using RF.
Edit: I made a bedrock breaker
Bedrock breakers are a lot harder to run, and it sounds like you are using an old version, too.
 

Omicron

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Yeah, "accidentally made a gas turbine" ought to be difficult when it requires sintered tungsten :p

But then again, FTB packs are still shipping like v16 in their "recommended" releases, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was using something utterly outdated.
 

Fyuiy

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Yeah, "accidentally made a gas turbine" ought to be difficult when it requires sintered tungsten :p

But then again, FTB packs are still shipping like v16 in their "recommended" releases, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was using something utterly outdated.
I just had to use a crap load of HLSA steel. I didn't realize that I was supposed to make a gasoline engine for the ethanol crystals. I'm sure I will use it in the future.

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Omicron

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Yeah, the gas turbine isn't a half bad choice for a bedrock breaker. In the newest versions, you'll need a minimum of 2 MW (1.6.4) / 4 MW (1.7.10) with a very stout torque requirement, which makes a throttled gas turbine a good option. So long as you can avoid being eaten by it. The area is always one block larger than you think it is! ;) I recommand iron bars (the not-ingot bars) to secure the front and sides.
 

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I dunno, I just used a microturbine for my bedrock breaker. Not as fast, but I'm not usually too pressed for bedrock. Plus, since the breaker now mines an infinite direction horizontally (as of version 25z), you can just slap a chest on the breaker, give the turbine a portable tank of fuel and walk away.