I have an idea to make a tier 5 zombie pigman spawner to generate gold to then be crafted with the minium stone to make infinite iron, gold, diamond and ender pearls easily any other ideas on diamond generation (I want it to be renewable and not require heaps of coal etc.)
Renewable Diamond Generation
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The only slight problem I see if that the minium stone will eventually break (I know it has like a thousand uses, but still), so maybe have a tier 5 wither skeleton spawner, then put the coal from the withers through the compressors. Though actually this would use clay, obsidian or iron as well hmmm....
I think possibly the only truly infinite source of diamonds is using uu-matter...
I think possibly the only truly infinite source of diamonds is using uu-matter...
Well, if you're already generating pigmen, then you could also filter some off for manual killing with a diamond sword. That would get you the minium shards that you need to regenerate your minium stone.
Very true, I did think of that, but I assumed the OP was after a start it and forget it sort of system, re-reading though he didn't mention anything of the sort, so yes that would work
As I recall, the minium stone doesn't work in auto-crafting tables (not tried extensively, so I might be wrong). Also, does the combat turtle/deployer with sword collect minuim shards? I know that it does for XP.Very true, I did think of that, but I assumed the OP was after a start it and forget it sort of system, re-reading though he didn't mention anything of the sort, so yes that would work
With my current xp farm being a tier 5 skeleton spawner that I manually one shot with my fists, I have 5.5 stacks of minium shards for about 44 minimum stones. Until he finally implements a different way to make them or get shards I think having enough minium stones is just a matter of patience. If you have a wood farm you can create a diamond using the minium stone using that, it takes 4 stacks of logs though and you could only create 9 diamonds, but it is renewable with enough minimum stones. A zombie pigmen spawner seems like a much easier and less wasteful way to use the stone though. Other than UU-Matter, the stone, and compressing coal I don't can't think of any other way to just generate diamonds though. Using villagers to get dust and using the implosion the compressor on them seems like a really awkward way to get them since you would need a reliable way to obtain gunpowder for the compression and enough emeralds to not just buy the diamond tools but also keep that trade active by using his other less sought after trades.
Soul shard tier 5 wither spawner = loads of coal. Igneous extruder + Rock Crusher + Macerator = flint, igneous extruder + magma cruicible + aquaeous accumulator + igneous extruder = obsidian. 64 coal dust + 8 flint + 1 obsidian = diamond.
Well you could automate the minium stone usage using a alchemist turtle. The misc peripherals mod lets you combine a turtle with the minium stone to let it act as a peripheral, it would need more stones to increase the charge of course. But automation none the less.
A few other crazy ideas:
1. ExtraBees has a bee to create coal dust (you can source flint and obsidian from TE, then Compress it. Rather tricky) and a bee to create diamonds (or diamond dust, can't remember which - if it's the latter you'll have to make an Implosion Compressor.) This will take a good few days of constant analysis and breeding, though, but once you've got a purebred line going... (Think hundreds of generations!) Your reward then is figuring out how to automate the hives with pipes, though. On the way, you'll find all sorts of other zany shenanigans and unusual resources. Call it an 'alternate tech tree.'
2. TE in general is a good source of blocks - the Extruder in particular is a fast way to make cobble for essentially nothing, and you can use the magmatic furnace to get lava for obsidian (in principle, anyway - energy cost is a tad steep). If I'm reading these tables correctly, you can convert cobble to diamonds in a ratio of 2^13 -> 1... hmm. That's 8192. On second thought, this isn't a good idea.
3. Have you visited the End yet? Enderpearls have a very favourable conversion of 1 pearl -> 4 iron, which you can then double up for one gold, so one diamond is... 8 pearls? That can't be right... Also probably easier to kill, given proper preparations, and you can save a few for Anchors later. (Remember: they're 3 tall!) Hang on. If you used a soul shard... hmmm....
4. I think I've heard it mentioned that one Twilight Forest mob drops iron picks. There are a variety of ways to reprocess those into iron, which you can then transmute, etc. Probably less finicky than the Endermen.
Oh yeah, and don't forget ordering a turtle to attack the mobs for you. That might also get you the Minium shards, and plenty of XP to boot.
1. ExtraBees has a bee to create coal dust (you can source flint and obsidian from TE, then Compress it. Rather tricky) and a bee to create diamonds (or diamond dust, can't remember which - if it's the latter you'll have to make an Implosion Compressor.) This will take a good few days of constant analysis and breeding, though, but once you've got a purebred line going... (Think hundreds of generations!) Your reward then is figuring out how to automate the hives with pipes, though. On the way, you'll find all sorts of other zany shenanigans and unusual resources. Call it an 'alternate tech tree.'
2. TE in general is a good source of blocks - the Extruder in particular is a fast way to make cobble for essentially nothing, and you can use the magmatic furnace to get lava for obsidian (in principle, anyway - energy cost is a tad steep). If I'm reading these tables correctly, you can convert cobble to diamonds in a ratio of 2^13 -> 1... hmm. That's 8192. On second thought, this isn't a good idea.
3. Have you visited the End yet? Enderpearls have a very favourable conversion of 1 pearl -> 4 iron, which you can then double up for one gold, so one diamond is... 8 pearls? That can't be right... Also probably easier to kill, given proper preparations, and you can save a few for Anchors later. (Remember: they're 3 tall!) Hang on. If you used a soul shard... hmmm....
4. I think I've heard it mentioned that one Twilight Forest mob drops iron picks. There are a variety of ways to reprocess those into iron, which you can then transmute, etc. Probably less finicky than the Endermen.
Oh yeah, and don't forget ordering a turtle to attack the mobs for you. That might also get you the Minium shards, and plenty of XP to boot.
No, you are right, 8 ender pearls for 1 diamond. And to obtain 1 diamond through obsidian you only need 128 obsidian. A lot for sure but not impossible which is why I mentioned using wood as 2 wood makes 1 obsidian. It goes through the stone quickly when you do it that way but at least you get your diamonds.[DOUBLEPOST=1357660145][/DOUBLEPOST]Also turtle kills do not get you minium shards.
UU matter is easy but overused Enderpearls are faster though require more transmutes but zombie pigmen are probably the best passive source so it really is just opinion there all good ideas none the less.
Blaze Rods > Blaze Powder > Industrial Electrolyzor = Coal Dust + something else
Cobble Generator > Pulverizor = Sand + Gravel
Gravel > Pulverizor = Flint
Igneous Extruder + Aqueous Accumulator + supply of lava > Obsidian
Flint + 8 coal dust > Compressor > 8 Compressed Coal ball + Obsidian > Compressor again > Diamond
For lava:
Magma Crucible + cobblestone or netherrack
The 2k MJ loss on cobble won't mean much as you're using it to make diamonds.
Each diamond takes a bit under a stack of blaze rods.
Cobble Generator > Pulverizor = Sand + Gravel
Gravel > Pulverizor = Flint
Igneous Extruder + Aqueous Accumulator + supply of lava > Obsidian
Flint + 8 coal dust > Compressor > 8 Compressed Coal ball + Obsidian > Compressor again > Diamond
For lava:
Magma Crucible + cobblestone or netherrack
The 2k MJ loss on cobble won't mean much as you're using it to make diamonds.
Each diamond takes a bit under a stack of blaze rods.
If only you could compress Charcoal into Diamonds...
Sadly, Charcoal Dust is almost useless in the DW20 pack.
Sadly, Charcoal Dust is almost useless in the DW20 pack.
Oh heck no, that's pretty cheaty/op even for me. Heck, if you could that then diamonds would be as common as dirt for me. I produce over a barrel of charcoal minecraftdaily.If only you could compress Charcoal into Diamonds...
Sadly, Charcoal Dust is almost useless in the DW20 pack.
And that's not even trying hard.
There is a comb that produces a tiny pile of diamond dust (according to NEI), so I assume there is a bee that generates the comb. Using GT, charcoal dust can be made into carbon fiber, so it's not entirely useless. (I know GT isn't used on the DW20 pack, but it is true that there aren't a lot of uses for charcoal dust.) I think you can also get coal dust from netherrack dust.
The mob farms that are possible with soul shards makes for some quite interesting setups. It's quite possible to power your whole base off the rotten flesh dropped from zombies.
Given enough time, you can generate infinite diamonds from a couple of railcraft rock crushers. Cobble gen -> rock crusher 1 -> gravel -> rock crusher 2 -> sand, gold and diamonds.
The sand you feed into a recycler for scrap to make scrap boxes then send to a scapboxinator to unpack and receive more recycle fodder along with more diamonds.
The mob farms that are possible with soul shards makes for some quite interesting setups. It's quite possible to power your whole base off the rotten flesh dropped from zombies.
Given enough time, you can generate infinite diamonds from a couple of railcraft rock crushers. Cobble gen -> rock crusher 1 -> gravel -> rock crusher 2 -> sand, gold and diamonds.
The sand you feed into a recycler for scrap to make scrap boxes then send to a scapboxinator to unpack and receive more recycle fodder along with more diamonds.
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My blaze shard drops minium to the point when I'm just dumping into a recycler.
So your pigzombie farm should work, and you'll be able to automate the production of minium stones to keep it all resupplied.
Breed your plants, and grow loads of Redwheat, Ferru and Au..? (IC2 plants the grow iron gold and redstone).
Too be honest- who needs a renewable supply of diamond? I don't use that many compared to my drain on iron, redstone and nikolite.
So your pigzombie farm should work, and you'll be able to automate the production of minium stones to keep it all resupplied.
Breed your plants, and grow loads of Redwheat, Ferru and Au..? (IC2 plants the grow iron gold and redstone).
Too be honest- who needs a renewable supply of diamond? I don't use that many compared to my drain on iron, redstone and nikolite.
I have left diamonds in the ground and even lava dumped to make space for more iron and this was before I needed an extra 500 for a boiler, tank and turbine.
The diamond bee was mentioned above. Also, if you really need diamonds you can do what I did, get a Thaumium Pickaxe and enchant it (I know requires diamonds as well :X). My first one with a lvl 30 enchant (tried iron first, it failed horribly) had Fortune 3, Efficiency 4 and Unbreaking 3. Later I ran into 2 diamond veins (I believe they were 5 and 2 respectively) and came out with about 15 diamonds. Right now I have about 32 diamonds between the diamonds I've mined and the coal I've compressed (since fortune also works on coal) as well as nearly a stack of rubies and sapphires from RP2. Since I managed to do this fairly early in my game I have more than enough diamonds than I can currently use, but darnit I'll find a use for em!
I'd probably have a diamond drill by now if I could find some darn slimes, spent about 7 hours working on my blaze trap last night (mostly for materials moreso than building it) and when digging down enough for the killing platform I also ran into a massive node of glowstone, so I have that as well~
I'd probably have a diamond drill by now if I could find some darn slimes, spent about 7 hours working on my blaze trap last night (mostly for materials moreso than building it) and when digging down enough for the killing platform I also ran into a massive node of glowstone, so I have that as well~