Really confused about thaumcraft 4.1

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kayla sharp

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I make the alchemy furnace and the thing that goes on top and some warded jars and well some have some essensia in them now, and I'm so confused what to do with it. I Shift clicked or something and it disappeared but in my research table none of it went to it. I thought thats what its suppose to do? and how do i automate it with golems.. Im just so confused and can't find any good guides for 4.1
 

ThatOneSlowking

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Uh... What? Do you mean you got essentia from the thing that melts down objects into essentia for infusion? That has nothing to do with research. The Arcane Deconstructor (IIRC that was its name) will melt down objects into aspects for research
 

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I watched all 40 something episodes of the first one posted and he updates to 4.1 half way through. Even so its worth watching from the start. they are not very long and help a good deal.

What you did by shift right clicking is empty the alembic, which deletes the essentia inside.

The furnace and alembic (the things you put atop the furnace) hold essentia (which is used for crafting thaumcraft items), you can put this into phials (like glass bottles) or Jars. Shift right clicking the jars, like above, will also delete its contents, again this is why your essentia dissapeared.

The stuff for research is aspects, not essentia. You get aspects by scanning things with the thaumonmeter (yeah i cant remember how to spell it), anything you drop on the ground, TE machines, vanilla materials ect ect will give you aspects. Additionally youl get more aspect points from nodes (easier to find at night / once you get goggles of revealing) by scanning them with the thaumometer. Additionally you need to "find" new aspects by combining those you already know. On the research table you can click , for example, aer and aqua and that arrow at the bottom left will try and find a connection. If aer and aqua make another aspects you will "learn" that aspect when you click the button. Each time you do this it takes up the two aspects used for it.

Best way to get started is literally take your thaumometer and scan EVERYTHING.. keep an eye on the bottom right of the screen, if it says nothing can be learned then its not compatible with TC4. If it says you dont have required knowledge it means you havent discovered the aspects that item contains yet, and come back later once you have done more research. If you wish, google 4.1 cheat sheet and it will tell you what combines with what to make the aspects.

Once you have discovered alot more aspects, and gotten a good few points from scanning items and more importantly, nodes. you can research.

A good thing to research early would be the deconstruction table. This will take items that you have scanned and destroy them to return the aspects they have within (this does not make essentia, thats completely different side of TC4, only aspects for research)
This saves you wandering around looking for nodes when you need more aspects.
Then research the two research related stuff, (expertise and mastery) as these save you aspects in the long run and helps you research for longer and less running around.


Since you have the furnace and jars ect, your already a good way into the basics of thaumcraft crafting, now for moving essentia from your furnace to the jars, you can either go with pipes..which i personally find to be a bit crap. or go for golems, which will empty and take it to the right jar. Thats where i headed next, to get essentia crafting up and running. as well as a new wand.

Then move onto the infusion alter, once you have that up and running proceed to research down whatever interests you.


Would deffinately give those vids a watch again though.
 

kayla sharp

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I watched all 40 something episodes of the first one posted and he updates to 4.1 half way through. Even so its worth watching from the start. they are not very long and help a good deal.

What you did by shift right clicking is empty the alembic, which deletes the essentia inside.

The furnace and alembic (the things you put atop the furnace) hold essentia (which is used for crafting thaumcraft items), you can put this into phials (like glass bottles) or Jars. Shift right clicking the jars, like above, will also delete its contents, again this is why your essentia dissapeared.

The stuff for research is aspects, not essentia. You get aspects by scanning things with the thaumonmeter (yeah i cant remember how to spell it), anything you drop on the ground, TE machines, vanilla materials ect ect will give you aspects. Additionally youl get more aspect points from nodes (easier to find at night / once you get goggles of revealing) by scanning them with the thaumometer. Additionally you need to "find" new aspects by combining those you already know. On the research table you can click , for example, aer and aqua and that arrow at the bottom left will try and find a connection. If aer and aqua make another aspects you will "learn" that aspect when you click the button. Each time you do this it takes up the two aspects used for it.

Best way to get started is literally take your thaumometer and scan EVERYTHING.. keep an eye on the bottom right of the screen, if it says nothing can be learned then its not compatible with TC4. If it says you dont have required knowledge it means you havent discovered the aspects that item contains yet, and come back later once you have done more research. If you wish, google 4.1 cheat sheet and it will tell you what combines with what to make the aspects.

Once you have discovered alot more aspects, and gotten a good few points from scanning items and more importantly, nodes. you can research.

A good thing to research early would be the deconstruction table. This will take items that you have scanned and destroy them to return the aspects they have within (this does not make essentia, thats completely different side of TC4, only aspects for research)
This saves you wandering around looking for nodes when you need more aspects.
Then research the two research related stuff, (expertise and mastery) as these save you aspects in the long run and helps you research for longer and less running around.


Since you have the furnace and jars ect, your already a good way into the basics of thaumcraft crafting, now for moving essentia from your furnace to the jars, you can either go with pipes..which i personally find to be a bit crap. or go for golems, which will empty and take it to the right jar. Thats where i headed next, to get essentia crafting up and running. as well as a new wand.

Then move onto the infusion alter, once you have that up and running proceed to research down whatever interests you.


Would deffinately give those vids a watch again though.

Thank you sooo much <3 I will defiantly watch all those videos now and you just really really helped clear up a lot of the confusion i had you're amazing thank you. what golem(s) should i use for automating the essensia?
 

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Whatever you like the look of, each type has a stat for "carry limit". the more "carry limit" a golem has, the more "minecraft buckets worth" of essentia it can hold per trip to the jar. So a limit of 1 can hold 1mb, limit of 2, 2mb ect ect.. Straw has a limit of 1, wood of 2, clay i think is 8 and i think one other, possibly thaumium has a limit of 16. Each golem has different speeds at which they walk so depending on how often you use your alembic/furnaces will determine which is more important to you. if you only use it when you NEED the essentia (say when crafting) then get one that can hold alot as it will mean fewer trips to each jar. If you want to chuck something in the furnace and go off to do other stuff, speed could be better, since it will do more trips but take more different essentia over the time.

Each golem can be upgraded for speed/carrying so its really all about finding a happy medium.

Personally right now i use straw, as hes a fast little thing and my jars are close to my furnace/alembics. I have two golems that shuttle back and forth happily filling the jars while i do other stuff, rather than waiting for them to finish.
 
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kayla sharp

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Whatever you like the look of, each type has a stat for "carry limit". the more "carry limit" a golem has, the more "minecraft buckets worth" of essentia it can hold per trip to the jar. So a limit of 1 can hold 1mb, limit of 2, 2mb ect ect.. Straw has a limit of 1, wood of 2, clay i think is 8 and i think one other, possibly thaumium has a limit of 16. Each golem has different speeds at which they walk so depending on how often you use your alembic/furnaces will determine which is more important to you. if you only use it when you NEED the essentia (say when crafting) then get one that can hold alot as it will mean fewer trips to each jar. If you want to chuck something in the furnace and go off to do other stuff, speed could be better, since it will do more trips but take more different essentia over the time.

Each golem can be upgraded for speed/carrying so its really all about finding a happy medium.

Personally right now i use straw, as hes a fast little thing and my jars are close to my furnace/alembics. I have two golems that shuttle back and forth happily filling the jars while i do other stuff, rather than waiting for them to finish.
What animation cores do they have?
 

RealSketch

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of course i googled it. the last vid you posted don't help me at all, he's too general and bounces around to much and the other one is 4, not 4.1 idk anything. so lighten up on the sarcasm
Don't get angry now, just because Google is not familiar to you.
Now, I post a ton of links; which you probably didn't even check. And you grab one and complain about it.
If you don't want to receive messages like this, use your noggle (common sense) and give Google a try.
 

kayla sharp

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Don't get angry now, just because Google is not familiar to you.
Now, I post a ton of links; which you probably didn't even check. And you grab one and complain about it.
If you don't want to receive messages like this, use your noggle (common sense) and give Google a try.
I looked at every post you posted and it did help. I just don't like the attitude. Like when I'm in class and i ask a question and the teacher treats me like I'm stupid. don't like it. but thanks for the info
 

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I looked at every post you posted and it did help. I just don't like the attitude. Like when I'm in class and i ask a question and the teacher treats me like I'm stupid. don't like it. but thanks for the info
You're welcome, I understand your concern and I'm sorry if I came off a bit offensive.
 
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Azzanine

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Yep, you are confused with Thaumcraft all right.

Research points and essentia are two totally different things. You can only get research points from scanning things in the world this includes nodes and that deconstructor thing I never use.

I will give OP some credit, as it's not 100% clear to a new player that essentia and research points are two different things. But I'm sure the Thauminomicon details it sufficiently, you don't skim the Thauminomicon.

My first point of reference for Thaumcraft is the Thauminomicon, if that fails to explain I will google a vid, if that fails I either give up on the mod or ask someone. If you went through those steps then no one should be right to snap at you. If you didn't bother with those steps though, your ignorance will likely be punished with a snarky comment and rightly so.
 

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it is confusing initialy as vis,aspects and essential share the same names but are actually separate systems. to get aspects for research you need to scan things and you need to use deconstruction table to break things into aspects. in my signature there is a link to my youtube channel with tutorial for noobies on thaumcraft. but seriously check out highyourkie as well he is the one I watched to learn when I first started. his tutorial is a little out of date but a lot of things are similar so not difficult to figure out yourself minor changes.
 

ThatOneSlowking

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Yep, you are confused with Thaumcraft all right.

Research points and essentia are two totally different things. You can only get research points from scanning things in the world this includes nodes and that deconstructor thing I never use.

I will give OP some credit, as it's not 100% clear to a new player that essentia and research points are two different things. But I'm sure the Thauminomicon details it sufficiently, you don't skim the Thauminomicon.

My first point of reference for Thaumcraft is the Thauminomicon, if that fails to explain I will google a vid, if that fails I either give up on the mod or ask someone. If you went through those steps then no one should be right to snap at you. If you didn't bother with those steps though, your ignorance will likely be punished with a snarky comment and rightly so.
You... You never use the decon table?
 

RealSketch

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Yep, you are confused with Thaumcraft all right.

Research points and essentia are two totally different things. You can only get research points from scanning things in the world this includes nodes and that deconstructor thing I never use.

I will give OP some credit, as it's not 100% clear to a new player that essentia and research points are two different things. But I'm sure the Thauminomicon details it sufficiently, you don't skim the Thauminomicon.

My first point of reference for Thaumcraft is the Thauminomicon, if that fails to explain I will google a vid, if that fails I either give up on the mod or ask someone. If you went through those steps then no one should be right to snap at you. If you didn't bother with those steps though, your ignorance will likely be punished with a snarky comment and rightly so.
You deserve a like my friend, one for the explanation of Thaumcraft and the other for the reference to my snappy comment.
 

Azzanine

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You deserve a like my friend, one for the explanation of Thaumcraft and the other for the reference to my snappy comment.

Well to be frank I can't totally agree with your comment as we do not know for sure if OP was being lazy with their Googlefu.
If they where lazy then your snark is implored, if they weren't it's unwarranted.
It's probably safe to assume they where being a little bit lazy as I mentioned the Thauminomicon is as thorough as it needs to be. But TC addons could trip if the addon makers aren't as diligent with their Thauminomicon entries as Azanor.
 
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Feniks

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Flint isn't bad but sooner or later you run low on gravel crafting tables are better and more reliable source with working tree farm. BTW I think we have answered OP sufficiently by now and he should be able to go from here no reason to post 1 liners :)
 
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