so as you may or may not know, the apiarist database shows how fast a bee produces something, but this only covers base traits, for bees like rusty, or diamond, who's base speed is slowest, this is a problem if you wanted to make them faster through serums or breeding. so does anyone know how to calculate how fast a bee is with faster or slower than base traits?
question about bee speed
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There's a lot of information in a thread here called "i did bee math", including a link to a spreadsheet that allows you to calculate how many frames to use in an alveary to maximise production.
http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/i-did-bee-math-now-with-more-usability.17893/
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Thanks for linking this, I was on my phone and it's fiddly to go navigate and link stuff compared to opening a tab on the pc.
Sometimes it's easier to search in your favourite search engine rather than using the forum software search - "i did bee math" in google would bring up the thread, but the forum search ignores all 3 letter words and smaller, so if there are lots of threads with "math" in them you'd not find it!
Basically, each bee has a base chance of production every bee tick, which is approximately 27.5 seconds.
Speeds modify this base chance.
Slowest has 30% modifier.
Slower has 60%.
Slow has 80%.
Normal has 100%.
Fast has 120%.
Faster has 140%.
Fastest has 170%.
Let's say we were talking about the Absolute Bee.
The Absolute Bee has a 20% Base Chance every bee tick to produce one Frozen Comb.
The bee has a speed of slower.
So we multiply 20% (0.2) by 60% (0.6).
The chance for an Absolute Bee to produce one Frozen Comb every bee tick is...
12 percent.
Every 25 bee ticks, the bee will have produced 3 combs.
Reduced further, the bee will produce one comb every 8.3 bee ticks, or (we round up here, for practical purposes) 9 bee ticks.
Which is also 247.5 seconds.
Which is also 4 minutes and 7.5 seconds.
Or 4.125 minutes.
TL;DR:
Bee Production Chance * Speed modifier = %/27.5 seconds.
Speeds modify this base chance.
Slowest has 30% modifier.
Slower has 60%.
Slow has 80%.
Normal has 100%.
Fast has 120%.
Faster has 140%.
Fastest has 170%.
Let's say we were talking about the Absolute Bee.
The Absolute Bee has a 20% Base Chance every bee tick to produce one Frozen Comb.
The bee has a speed of slower.
So we multiply 20% (0.2) by 60% (0.6).
The chance for an Absolute Bee to produce one Frozen Comb every bee tick is...
12 percent.
Every 25 bee ticks, the bee will have produced 3 combs.
Reduced further, the bee will produce one comb every 8.3 bee ticks, or (we round up here, for practical purposes) 9 bee ticks.
Which is also 247.5 seconds.
Which is also 4 minutes and 7.5 seconds.
Or 4.125 minutes.
TL;DR:
Bee Production Chance * Speed modifier = %/27.5 seconds.
"Will" nothing, that's not how odds work!
That there figure is your average rate of return - there's only about a 65% chance that at least one comb will've been produced within eight bee ticks (100% - 88%^8).Anyway, say you look up the absolute bee in the database. You'll see it has a "slower" production speed, and an average production rate of one frozen comb per 3.8 minutes (which is 8.3 bee ticks, so whizz's numbers above are only off because he decided to round that figure up before multiplying out to an "exact" time).
Using the percentages in whizz's post above you'll see that "slower" bees are operating at 60% of their "normal" speed:
3.8 minutes = 228 seconds. 60% of 228 seconds = 228 / 100 * 60 = 136.8 seconds (or ~2.28 minutes) were the bee at "normal" production speed, which is about what the database will quote you on the charmed bee's otherworldy combs (which have the same base production rate as frozen combs, but that bee defaults to an overall "normal" production speed).
A cultivated bee, on the other hand, quotes 57.2 seconds per honey comb, using the "fast" production trait. 57.2 / 80 * 120 = 85.8 seconds (~1.4 minutes) were the bee at "slow" production speed, which is about what the databank will quote you on the heroic bee's cocoa combs (which have the same base production rate as cultivated honey combs, but that bee defaults to an overall "slow" production speed).
Bear in mind that choice of hive alters these numbers further. A standard alveary with no frames will leave them untouched, whereas an apiary with no frames will increase production time to 1000%.