Puzzled by MFR drill + big reactors

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YX33A

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Interesting I need to test this :)
Just remember that some machines don't support energy input from any side; multiblock setups usually are explicit with what goes where. But the precharger should, in theory, allow input from all sides except the one that emits the laser(and that's just because it's hard to get energy in without a connection there; Thaumic Tinkerer beat that idea into dust ages ago with the transvector stuff).
 

kaovalin

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I can confirm the limit of 10kRF/t limit is per connection and that the conduit itself has no limit. Another interesting tid bit, the tesseract also has no I/O limitations, it is only limited with what the connections can I/O from it.
 

Juanitierno

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When I used EU for a mining laser, it took 512 eu/t per precharger and it just kept the buffer full. I'm not sure what the conversion ratio is, but you may be maxing out your connection with the energy conduit. They are 10k RF/t per connection.

It is only 10k per connection. The conduit itself is not limited to that on throughput. I thought KL said they were basically unlimited throughput.

After some testing, this is what I found. The MFR laser takes 5k RF/t per precharger to run at max power. That is a total of 20k RF/t. A single conduit can feed it with one connection per precharger since they are only 5k each. The conduit can carry the 20k with no problem. You have to attach the conduit to 2 faces of an energy cell to get enough power to run it full speed. You cannot use anything but a Resonant energy cell. Even if you used 5 faces as output from a redstone energy cell, you would only be running the laser at half power. With just 2 connections, the prechargers hold steady but won't fill their buffers since it is using the full 20k RF/t. If you make a 3rd connection the the energy cell, the precharger buffers fill and the tops of the pre charger turn red. The laser itself will never fill its buffer. It will also never draw more than 20k RF/t no matter how many connections you give it.

After rereading the original post, the answer is simple. You aren't making enough power to run 2 lasers. You will need all 8 2500 RF/t reactors just to run a single laser at max speed. I would guess they are less efficient when not fully powered, so splitting your already insufficient power in half would have less output.

Thats the thing, the laser seems to be MORE efficient at low energy.

When feeding the drill setup with just 2500RF it was producing 5000RF worth of nuclear fuel.
When feeding thre drill setup with 20.000RF it was producing less than 20.000RF worth of nuclear fuel.

Thats why i said i can only explain it as diminishing returns on the laser drill, which makes no sense really :/
 

Dentvar

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Got lost a bit in all the theoires posted here.
But assuming there is a human error and not a bug cause of this, first thing I would test are the Conduits.

Could it be that if you connect a conduit to a cell that the hole conduit block wich is conected to the cell is limited to 10K/rf? And that the limitless throguhput is just for a conduit that isn´t conected to any other energie accepting block?

Or is the limit just for the yellow conextion you can switch of with a creciant hammer?

I don´t know if I explain myself and my Paint skills sucks.

I will setup what I mean when I come Home next to your Setup Juanitierno so maybe you can drive run some tests.
 

DriftinFool

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Thats the thing, the laser seems to be MORE efficient at low energy.

When feeding the drill setup with just 2500RF it was producing 5000RF worth of nuclear fuel.
When feeding thre drill setup with 20.000RF it was producing less than 20.000RF worth of nuclear fuel.

Thats why i said i can only explain it as diminishing returns on the laser drill, which makes no sense really :/

In the picture you posted, you have multiple connections to the prechargers. They only need one connection. You need a 2nd connections to the energy cell. Also make sure the cell is set to output 10k RF/t. You also said you had a single 2500 RF/t reactor in your test. Then you refer to having 2 1250 RF/t reactors. Different reactors have different efficiencies. Was your test with the same exact reactors you have now? Just guessing now.
Also, mining lasers are more meant as a late game power sync than a reliable fuel source.[DOUBLEPOST=1393532829][/DOUBLEPOST]
Got lost a bit in all the theoires posted here.
But assuming there is a human error and not a bug cause of this, first thing I would test are the Conduits.

Could it be that if you connect a conduit to a cell that the hole conduit block wich is conected to the cell is limited to 10K/rf? And that the limitless throguhput is just for a conduit that isn´t conected to any other energie accepting block?

Or is the limit just for the yellow conextion you can switch of with a creciant hammer?

I don´t know if I explain myself and my Paint skills sucks.

I will setup what I mean when I come Home next to your Setup Juanitierno so maybe you can drive run some tests.

The limit is on the yellow connection. Each of them is capable of inputting/outputting 10 RF/t. The conduit itself can carry basically unlimited.
 
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