Project Red wiring problem

[Tommerbob]

Playing on 1.6.4 DW20 pack with Project:Red.

I'm trying to use the Framed Red Alloy Wires (FRAW) to send a redstone signal vertically to power some Fluiducts. Like this:

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The FRAW does not work, however.

- When the FRAW is used by itself, it does nothing. I hook it up to a lever or button, it glows red, but does not power any blocks.

- When I connect the FRAW to regular Red Alloy Wiring that is turned off, when i turn it on, the FRAW does nothing.

- However, when I connect the FRAW to Wiring that is already on, the FRAW receives the signal, and if the connection is lost, continues to transmit the signal. Pic:

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You can see the top Fluiduct is still powered despite the signal being off.

- The regular Red Alloy Wires work just fine, I just don't want to use walls to run them vertically.

Alternatively I tried using the Rednet Cables from MineFactory Reloaded, which work, but Microblock Covers do not work with them.

Anyone have any insight or other suggestions? Any help is appreciated.

 

[jordsta95]

I have never used FRAW so I wouldn't be able to give you any insight.
But I can give you an alternative that is even more compact if you want it?

Use Builcraft waterproof pipes, and the pipe cables, that way you are using the pipes themselves to both transport the liquids and the redstone signal (you can either hook it up to the gate that allows it to extract fluids, or use it to activate engines, if that works, I don't use BC much)

But without knowing where you are trying to place the stuff (against a wall, etc.) it's kinda hard to suggest other possibilities

 

[rizzy]

So glad the new DW pack has Ender IO in it. Love having all the cables in the same block!

 

[MacAisling]

Red alloy wire needs a direct connection to the block you want to power. The framed sections are basically insulated from everything else, so you need to connect them with pieces of bare wire. What you are trying to do in your example won't work because you'd still have to power a block to power the duct. Below, there are 3 pieces of wire in a single block space, bare wire attached to the blocks above & below, with framed wire connecting the 2.

 

[Tommerbob]

Red alloy wire needs a direct connection to the block you want to power. The framed sections are basically insulated from everything else, so you need to connect them with pieces of bare wire. What you are trying to do in your example won't work because you'd still have to power a block to power the duct. Below, there are 3 pieces of wire in a single block space, bare wire attached to the blocks above & below, with framed wire connecting the 2.

So if I want to use FRAW's, I still need to use blocks next to the Fluiducts, or go with another system such as Rednet Cables?

Thanks for the help.

Also, in my second pic, why is the top Fluiduct powered then?

 

[KingTriaxx]

Which is curious, consider that the wire is off.

Try using MFR Rednet, which will function free standing. It'll connect without needing a block.

 

[MacAisling]

It looks like a bug where the fluiduct isn't getting a block update when you break a powered redstone connection. I'd usually either use 2 servos (always on) or 1 lever + 1 block (both on/off same time, 1st image) or 2 levers + 2 blocks (on/off independently). The FRAWs work great if you want to hide it in a wall (2nd image), but if you have to use them freestanding I'd do something like image 3.

(you don't actually need the bottom framed wire, only 3 blocks receive a redstone signal here, where bare wire would output a signal to 5 blocks, & vanilla redstone even more)

 

[Tommerbob]

It looks like a bug where the fluiduct isn't getting a block update when you break a powered redstone connection. I'd usually either use 2 servos (always on)

I didn't even think about using Servo's to keep them always on. lol. I think that would probably solve my aesthetic problem! Thanks!